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Tipping out milk in London stores

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Joy241 Mon 10-Oct-22 10:08:42

I wonder what other Gransnetters think about the incident in which two people poured out milk in Fortnum & Masons, and another store, to demonstrate their wish for everyone to convert to a vegan/plant-based diet.

I do not criticise their wish for everyone to become vegan, but I do wonder if they are using the right methods of persuasion.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 10-Oct-22 10:14:32

Definitely wrong methods if they intend to persuade folks to switch to plant based milk substitutes I abhor wastefulness, especially of food products.

They have received a limited amount of publicity, as this kind of protest is rather old hat.

There has to be a better way than wasting consumables whilst some folks are struggling to buy milk.

glammanana Mon 10-Oct-22 10:17:58

I do criticise their wish for everyone to become vegan !! surely people have their own choices in life as to what they eat & drink .

Juliet27 Mon 10-Oct-22 10:18:55

And some farmers are struggling to sell milk.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Oct-22 10:20:29

And as regards the climate activists in London I think they'll find that their Just Stop Oil banner is produced using oil derivatives. So too the frames for their spectacles, their trainers and their mobile phones.

And did they teleport themselves there?

Tizliz Mon 10-Oct-22 10:24:35

I don’t think they have chosen the right product to make their point as milk substitutes such as almond milk use a lot of resources to make.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Oct-22 10:30:11

They like to style themselves as brave eco warriors. In reality they only do what they are doing because they know we have a useless woke police farce that is more likely to charge any frustrated citizen who tries to move them out of the way.

The police in France knew how to deal with clowns who glued themselves to roads. They didn't spend hours gently removing the glue so as not to hurt the little darlings - they grabbed a hold of them and yanked them off the road. Needless to say, after seeing that, their fellow 'revolutionaries' soon stopped doing that particular little stunt.

maddyone Mon 10-Oct-22 10:47:49

I agree with Urmstongran. People have the right to protest peacefully. They do not have the right to destroy the property of others, or to prevent others from going about their lawful business.

Joy241 Mon 10-Oct-22 10:50:21

glammanana

I do criticise their wish for everyone to become vegan !! surely people have their own choices in life as to what they eat & drink .

glammanana I agree with you, but they have their views too. I am an omnivore, but I appreciate the views of those who do not want to be, and those who feel that by everyone becoming vegans the Earth would benefit. I completely disagree with their methods.

BlueBelle Mon 10-Oct-22 11:04:59

Hideous and they should be prosecuted and that’s from someone very aware of Green matters I m a vegetarian not a vegan but that’s my choice and has nothing to do with anyone else I would never try to tell other folk what the should or shouldn’t eat and as for destroying food or drink it’s a sin in my book

M0nica Mon 10-Oct-22 11:09:12

They are arrogant and narrow minded. What right have they to try to dictate to other people how I should eat?

What would their response be if we tried to force them to eat meat?

What irritates me most is the way they have taken their trade name 'Vegan' and got it slapped on all kinds of foods that existed far longer than they have. Once apon a time, you could find a recipe, look at a menu, buy a ready meal saying something like, vegetable chilli, or hearty vegetable stew. But you can only buy Vegan vegetable chilli or Vegan vegetable stew. You rarely find food for vegetarians labelled like that.

I am not talking about the symbols on menus that indicate whether a dish is vegan, vegetarian, or gluten free, or symbols on packaged food, those are perfectly reasonable.

It is as if the late Queen had insisted that if anyone made or cooked Coronation Chicken, they had to call it The Queen's Coronation Chicken, even though she had nothing to do with it and it probably wasn't the true Coronation Chicken recipe.

TerriBull Mon 10-Oct-22 11:09:18

There has to be a better way to demonstrate, in wasting milk of which many are consumers and won't be able to afford plant based options, even if their families were open to those products, when money is so tight. No doubt cleaners on minimum wage have to clean up their mess, they should be made to do it, as should the young woman who emptied effluent all over Tom Moore's memorial.

Katie59 Mon 10-Oct-22 11:19:02

They should be arrested and fined just like any other vandal

Blossoming Mon 10-Oct-22 11:27:06

It’s bullying. They are trying to force their views on people.

Grantanow Mon 10-Oct-22 11:50:52

It's vandalism and needs prosecuting. Also a waste of food especially when some people are starving. I think there is a right of peaceful protest but not when ordinary people are inconvenienced in getting to work or school.

lemsip Mon 10-Oct-22 12:19:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-63135434
A woman who poured human faeces over a memorial to Sir Captain Tom Moore has admitted criminal damage.

Madeleine Budd damaged the life-sized statue of the World War Two veteran in Thistley Meadow, in Hatton, Derbyshire, on Friday in an apparent climate protest.

The 21-year-old, from Manchester, was charged with criminal damage on Monday. remanded in custody till 25th oct.

did no one else see this

Blondiescot Mon 10-Oct-22 12:31:27

I think it's disgusting. I wholeheartedly support anyone's right to peaceful protest, but in a time when we have people struggling to make ends meet and children going to school hungry, to deliberately waste any kind of food in this way is just wrong.

Oldwoman70 Mon 10-Oct-22 12:40:53

Of course their actions will do nothing to further their cause - all they have done is spend money on a product they don't want anyone to buy - where is the logic in that?

A little while ago we had a group in a supermarket blocking access to the fridges holding meat in an attempt to stop people buying it. They were very affronted when shoppers were pushing past them to get to the fridges and claimed they had been "assaulted" Again, did nothing for their cause.

Farzanah Mon 10-Oct-22 12:47:53

I think climate activists have a valid point but aggravating people and businesses isn’t really the way to endear others to their cause.
Veganism is not the easy answer either because many plant milks have a dark side too if you research.
I also find that products labelled “vegan” in the supermarkets can be highly processed to make them palatable, which surely defeats the object.
I think global warming is a very immediate threat and we should live simpler lives with simpler diets and less consumerism but without aggressively dictating to others.

timetogo2016 Mon 10-Oct-22 12:58:48

A bunch of pillocks imo.
What a waste of milk when some folk are struggling.

rosie1959 Mon 10-Oct-22 13:03:43

Appalling behaviour does nothing to influence their cause. The same for the idiots who have been gluing themselves to the highway whilst the police stand and watch. Remove them immediately glue or no glue

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 10-Oct-22 13:04:20

I volunteer in a food bank: I wish they had donated the milk to folk who would have appreciated it. I am a vegetarian...

Norah Mon 10-Oct-22 13:08:49

glammanana

I do criticise their wish for everyone to become vegan !! surely people have their own choices in life as to what they eat & drink .

People can't force others to be vegans. Everyone should choose for themselves. Such a messy wasteful protest.

The protest is lost on me. I find all dairy substitutes unpleasant - preferring water, black coffee, tea, juice, wine.

volver Mon 10-Oct-22 13:11:02

Suella would love you lot.

volver Mon 10-Oct-22 13:14:18

What irritates me most is the way they have taken their trade name 'Vegan' and got it slapped on all kinds of foods that existed far longer than they have.'

Well that's a bizarre comment.

Vegan food is vegan food. It's not a trade name confused