Razzamatazz
Since lockdown I think a lot of people have become selfish as well as thoughtless. I am glad you went home, your dog will always be a better friend than any of them.
Razzamatazz Such wise words and so true.
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I arranged to go out for a countryside walk with a group of friends, some I know well, some I hardly know at all. We were supposed to walk for about an hour and finish up at an eating place for lunch.
Quite a nice cafe style place for lunch with three separate eating areas with same menu; outside area, inside conservatory and inside restaurant.
No dogs allowed in restaurant area but staff quite happy for dogs to stay with you in other areas.
Friends decided to eat in restaurant area even though they knew I couldn't bring my dog in with me.
What would you have done?
1. Tied dog up outside, where you couldn't see him and risk him, or you, getting anxious, and sit and eat with friends.
2. Eat on your own in another area.
3. Go home.
Just wonder what others think.
Razzamatazz
Since lockdown I think a lot of people have become selfish as well as thoughtless. I am glad you went home, your dog will always be a better friend than any of them.
Razzamatazz Such wise words and so true.
I think there’s a lot of assumptions going on and as grannyrose hasn’t come back we are all presuming we know the situation
1) did granny know people weren’t taking dogs (did she ask? Did she assume it would be acceptable
2) did the friends actually say we’re not eating with you? ( as you all seem to point out how terrible they were how unfriendly, how uncaring) or, more likely did they just walk in sit down then later realise she wasn’t with them and presume she had gone home after the walk remember it was a big group maybe she just wasn’t missed in the rush to find a big enough table or tables
I ve got a vision of them finding the eating place all chatting and going in to find a table * Grannyrose* left outside and then she just walked away home feeling miserable and resentful but the others after they’d settled presuming shed gone home out of choice
Did any of the real friends text or message to see if she was ok after the meal I wonder ?
It could have been a total misunderstanding not necessarily so black and white as a lot of you believe
You make a good point BlueBelle
LRavenscroft
Razzamatazz
Since lockdown I think a lot of people have become selfish as well as thoughtless. I am glad you went home, your dog will always be a better friend than any of them.
Razzamatazz Such wise words and so true.
The OP was one was thoughtless and made the assumption that the group would sit in the Conservatory just to accommodate her.
I don’t know why people can’t see that.
As she gave what other people would want no thought on this occasion I can’t help but wonder if it’s happened several times before and they just got fed up with it.
Certainly you can see that a number of posters on this site would always expect the wants of a dog and it’s owner to come before anybody else’s.
Ah well- confirms my long held belief! About people who don't like dogs.
Lathyrus I agree we do not know the full story about this matter, but I know that if I was with a group of friends, even if there were others in the group I did not know at all, some of my friends would opt to sit with me in the conservatory to eat, where my dog could lie under the table.
Perhaps the OP will return to say more.
Fleurpepper
Ah well- confirms my long held belief! About people who don't like dogs.
I love dogs.
I don't like owners who think their dog should be treated like a human being.
I don't like owners who let their dog bark incessantly and either think it's cute or don't know how to keep it quiet.
I don't like owners who let their dogs, on or off the lead, run right in front of me.
I do think anyone has the right to eat their food or drink their coffee in a dog free area if they wish and dog owners should respect that.
None of this means I hate dogs. I don't have one but that's because I recognise the sort of care they need, and the sort of place it is best for them to live in, and know I can't provide that. It's just a pity so many dog owners can't say the same.
No 3 and I'd find a new group of dog loving, walking friends pretty sharpish.
That is soooo rude! In my mind they are not friends, I presume not dog lovers either,
I’d of gone home sorry I didn’t answer the question
Were you told bringing the dog on the walk would be fine with everyone? Did the walk planner know there would be a dog? If so, it was mean. If not, sorry but you've assumed everyone would comply with accommodating your dog - which was not the case.
Glorianny
Fleurpepper
Ah well- confirms my long held belief! About people who don't like dogs.
I love dogs.
I don't like owners who think their dog should be treated like a human being.
I don't like owners who let their dog bark incessantly and either think it's cute or don't know how to keep it quiet.
I don't like owners who let their dogs, on or off the lead, run right in front of me.
I do think anyone has the right to eat their food or drink their coffee in a dog free area if they wish and dog owners should respect that.
None of this means I hate dogs. I don't have one but that's because I recognise the sort of care they need, and the sort of place it is best for them to live in, and know I can't provide that. It's just a pity so many dog owners can't say the same.
I actually agree.
But this is not what this post is about. But about friendship, and what friends do, or not.
I’d go home. Rather be with dog anyway!
How very rude and thoughtless of them.
I would have left and told them exactly why.
Your dog is a better friend to you than they are.
I’d have just said ‘ can we eat in the conservatory so I can bring the dog in or I’ll probably go home as I don’t want to tie it up outside’. Hopefully that would shame them into changing their minds. Or you could say ‘ would anyone like to eat with me in the conservatory ?’
If your friends stayed in the restaurant after either of these I’d get new friends.
I am a dog person, I love dogs but I wouldn’t have a dog in an eating area. A dog has a little shake and hairs fly everywhere. You could have enjoyed your walk and lunch then taken your dog on its usual walk when you got home.
Gone home without any explanation to them and started to seek out new friends
2 if I was hungry or 3 if I was not and never gone out with them again....and of course you wouldn't have been alone, your dog was there!
Glorianny
Fleurpepper
Ah well- confirms my long held belief! About people who don't like dogs.
I love dogs.
I don't like owners who think their dog should be treated like a human being.
I don't like owners who let their dog bark incessantly and either think it's cute or don't know how to keep it quiet.
I don't like owners who let their dogs, on or off the lead, run right in front of me.
I do think anyone has the right to eat their food or drink their coffee in a dog free area if they wish and dog owners should respect that.
None of this means I hate dogs. I don't have one but that's because I recognise the sort of care they need, and the sort of place it is best for them to live in, and know I can't provide that. It's just a pity so many dog owners can't say the same.
I love dogs, we've had dogs in the past but couldn't give one the exercise it would require now and we spent time overseas, so made the decision not to have another.
However, dogs generally in restaurants and cafés? Fine if there are separate areas as there must be many who don't like dogs around when they're eating out. Or at all, in fact.
Well-behaved dogs are fine but there should be a choice of areas.
But - I have been in a farm café and seen someone sit his dog on his knee and let it eat the leftovers from his plate.
Quite honestly, it put me off my food.
All I could think was, I hope they've got a really hot dishwasher!
MickyD
I am a dog person, I love dogs but I wouldn’t have a dog in an eating area. A dog has a little shake and hairs fly everywhere. You could have enjoyed your walk and lunch then taken your dog on its usual walk when you got home.
but surely you would have had the sense and good manners to say something at the planning stage or at least when a freinds arrived with a dog?
Fleurpepper
Glorianny
Fleurpepper
Ah well- confirms my long held belief! About people who don't like dogs.
I love dogs.
I don't like owners who think their dog should be treated like a human being.
I don't like owners who let their dog bark incessantly and either think it's cute or don't know how to keep it quiet.
I don't like owners who let their dogs, on or off the lead, run right in front of me.
I do think anyone has the right to eat their food or drink their coffee in a dog free area if they wish and dog owners should respect that.
None of this means I hate dogs. I don't have one but that's because I recognise the sort of care they need, and the sort of place it is best for them to live in, and know I can't provide that. It's just a pity so many dog owners can't say the same.I actually agree.
But this is not what this post is about. But about friendship, and what friends do, or not.
I agree too, but you are spot on - that's not what this is about. It is about friendship, and so-called 'friends' who would leave one member of a group to eat on her own are not friends in my book.
but surely you would have had the sense and good manners to say something at the planning stage
Yes, I said earlier it was a lack of communication
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Or not go at all.
Not leaving my dog outside, she'd be terrified and might even get stolen! No point having lunch separate from the rest unless there's another dog owner there of course, in which case be clear you're having much more fun than the knobs in the restaurant ?
From the point of view of the friends I wouldn't have wanted to eat where dogs were.
GranyRose15 - Some people just don't like animals and certainly don't want to eat with them around. You have to respect that but if these so-called 'friends' knew you were taking your dog and fell into this category they should have mentioned that having a dog around for lunch wouldn't be something they were comfortable with. So did you make it clear you would turn up with your dog? If so, then you should ditch these 'friends', and if not you should learn from the lesson and not assume that everyone is happy with a pooch in attendance at lunch.
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