The case against ID cards

We had compulsory ID cards between 1939 and 1952. It would be interesting to know if people had their money cut off, were blacklisted, etc.

VioletSky

Volver, I am opposed to you going off grid lol

😊💐

icanhandthemback

We had compulsory ID cards between 1939 and 1952. It would be interesting to know if people had their money cut off, were blacklisted, etc.

It wouldn't have been so easy then, though.

Volver How often have you been asked by any official who you are when just walking down the street? Never happened to me. There are so many "official" type documents that are counterfeit these days perhaps a biometric ID card would be more secure.

4allweknow.
That has nothing to do with the case.
Volver merely wishes it to be known that she doesn’t want an ID card, no matter how useful it might be to others, whether or not she’s ever been stopped in this country or any other, whether or not she has something to hide or anything else that comes up.
I’m supporting Volver in her frustration in getting over to posters the fact that she doesn’t want an ID card. ❤️❤️

volver

Is that an actual physical threat icanhandthemback? That's a first.

I'm not that brave!

This is a madhouse.

Makes Elon's Twitter seem sane.

It wouldn't have been so easy then, though.

No but years ago without ID cards, people were blacklisted from getting jobs because of union action, being with Right Wing Groups, etc. Not having an ID card hasn't stopped that sort of action. It may be having an ID card would make those lists where you are blackballed searchable because of the Freedom of Information Act. It could actually make life easier to prove you are being labelled as persona non grata so you can fight it through the courts.

volver

This is a madhouse.

Makes Elon's Twitter seem sane.

I know Volver, but it’s your madhouse.

I would love a national ID card - I don't drive and haven't been out of the country since the mid 90s so no passport either. It can be extremely difficult not having any photo ID in the 21st century.

Tell that to my husband, Saetana. He won't listen though, and to be fair he seems to manage just fine 🙄.

But as you know Doodledog, he’s only managing fine until he goes to Probate over his mother at some time in the future. Then it may become difficult for him unfortunately.

Oh yes, or if I’m out and he needs to prove he’s over 18 to a delivery driver bringing a bottle of wine that I’ve ordered as a Christmas present. There’s no talking to him though.

volver

Stop being so rude.

Pot, Kettle, Black!

I have lived in countries that required ID cards, never asked to show my ID and were only used as an extra when requiring certain documentation. I have no objection to having one and think it probably would be of benefit to a lot of people who do not have passports or driving licences. As you get older you may give up driving and going abroad and therefore have no current identification so an ID card would be useful for them as well as for those who had never held either of those documents.

I used to think it would be a good idea and if you’ve nothing to hide why wouldn’t you want to carry one but the worlds gone a bit crazy and I don’t doubt the scammers would soon find a way to fake them so would they really be of much use?

I rarely get asked for ID for alcohol deliveries - given I am over 50 and look it

Mr dog is 67 . Normal deliveries from Sainsbury's etc don't need ID, but Amazon do, even when it's blindingly obvious that you are the wrong side of 60.

I don't drink, but do order booze as Christmas presents, and have more than once been asked to show ID.

I had ordered some gift hampers from Harrods which contained champagne and port, DH had to provide photo ID to the delivery driver.

www.globalplayer.com/podcasts/episodes/7Dreh9F/

James O'Brien show on LBC today. I guess he's been reading Gransnet. 😊

ID back on the cards for Labour

But let's not worry, eh? He's not worried though. Not yet, anyway...🙄

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11403431/Downing-Street-rules-introducing-ID-cards-tackle-migrants-crisis.html

Sorry to post a link to the Mail but it's worth it for Kit Malthouse's comment: He added that it was 'not far to jump from that to us all having a barcode tattooed on us at birth'.

😂

Yes Volver.
We know you don’t want an ID card and no one can make you have one.
Are you at all concerned about the potential benefits for others?

Why don't you listen to the program instead of indulging your need to try to paint me as the bad guy?

I'm quite concerned that I share an opinion with the Tories 😲. But the main Labour party think it's a non starter as well. Politicians haven't gone completely bonkers after all.

Basically we have had 13 pages discussing something that will in all probability not happen…

We have page after page discussing IACGMOOH. And numerous Corrie threads.

Anybody who's not interested can skip right along.

Unlike ID card schemes and voter id, it's not compulsory to take part. 😉