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BlueBelle Sun 18-Dec-22 14:45:28

I have new neighbours moving in this week I know the family and they are decent people but I m in a bit of a pickle the lady has just come to ask me as they can’t get their wifi put on until after Christmas and have children could they I use my password for a couple of weeks and they d willingly pay me to do that I d feel terrible to say no but will it make any difference to my plan (which is wifi only with a landline but as long as I don’t use the landline for outgoing calls I pay no extra)
Hope this makes sense
On the whole I can get by technically but not very clever about all the out of normal stuff

biglouis Sun 18-Dec-22 17:00:13

I would consider it an incredible cheek if anyone asked me for my password, especially as I run a business and bank online. I dont even give neighbours my phone number! I would tell them that my nephew handles all the techy stuff and I have no idea what the password is.

Baggs Sun 18-Dec-22 17:00:56

And yes, if our wi-fi goes down we can use 4G (or whatever higher G MrB has) on our mobiles.

I think it's rather a cheeky request they've made.

Baggs Sun 18-Dec-22 17:01:31

x-posts, biglouis 🙂

Marydoll Sun 18-Dec-22 17:08:52

An extreme case scenario, ridiculous and highly unlikely, but let's imagine a visiting family member of your neighbours is given your password by them and they download child pornography. It will be tagged to your IP address. How would you get out of that?

You just don't know, what secrets people hide.
A member of our local community did just that, he was the most unlikely criminal.

I cannot believe, you are still swithering BB

BlueBelle Sun 18-Dec-22 17:25:45

Not sure what swithering means marydoll but my first thought was no then I thought well it can’t do any harm and they offered to pay me for the any inconvenience and now you have all brought things up I hadn’t thought of up into my brain it looks like I ll need to say no for my own safety but I’m going to feel awful especially as the parents have been very kind to me in all the upheaval that has been going on with the former nightmare tenants

She had booked her provider but they can’t do it till after Christmas and as she has kids she wanted WiFi over the holiday period I can understand that too

I feel awful now a box of chocs isn’t going to make up for kids without Wi-Fi I can imagine how my grandkids would be
Oh dear

nadateturbe Sun 18-Dec-22 17:29:16

They should never have asked Bluebelle and saying no doesn't make you a bad neighbour.
Just say you wouldn't be comfortable with it security wise. They'll survive!
It's not your problem.

Baggs Sun 18-Dec-22 17:42:21

MrB said that if he was asked for this favour, he would change the password before telling them it and then change it again when the period they were using it was over.

He also spoke about broadband speeds for streaming videos, etc.

Lathyrus Sun 18-Dec-22 17:47:53

Just to say, when I was homeless and sofa surfing a couple of years ago, I did everything on my phone.

I m sure they’ve got mobile phones they can use. No need to use yours.

BlueBelle Sun 18-Dec-22 18:03:26

How do you change the password Baggs it comes with the modem

No I m not comfortable with it at all but I m also finding it very hard to refuse although I think I ll just say tomorrow that I ve spoken to my provider and they ve said that with my package I wouldn’t be able to

Forsythia Sun 18-Dec-22 18:05:42

That’s a good get out. I think you must be very careful.

Baggs Sun 18-Dec-22 18:20:10

I think you've found the solution, BB. Good luck.

Re password changing, I guess you have an account with whoever provides your wi-fi. It'll be a case of logging on to your account and changing it there.

NorthFace Sun 18-Dec-22 18:27:53

In addition to the security issues, Mr Baggs makes a very good point.

Internet speeds are getting faster and faster. I recently negotiated a cheaper broadband deal (£14.99 a month including landline) because I don't need more than 50Mbps to power my one smart HDTV, laptop and phone.

Start sharing a wi-fi with this relatively slow speed with neighbours streaming Christmas television on 4KTVs, adults and children running umpteen other smart devices; gaming, big downloads etc and suddenly BlueBelle may not have sufficient bandwidth to run her own devices. Suddenly that film you wanted to stream on Netflix keeps freezing because the neighbours are using up all the bandwidth. See the chart attached.

Do know what speed you get BlueBelle? You can check it here:

www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk

Here’s a link to a Which magazine article on how to change your password:

computing.which.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/207057535-How-to-change-your-wireless-router-password

Kim19 Sun 18-Dec-22 18:28:40

Yes, I too would check with the providers. Pretty sure of their response though. Also 'short' periods of time sometimes elongate I intentionally.

Beechnut Sun 18-Dec-22 18:31:54

Have they mentioned about the Wi-Fi on more than one occasion BB. Because if they have only asked once I wouldn’t say anything to them until they brought it up again (if they do).

Grammaretto Sun 18-Dec-22 18:34:20

I would say no sorry.
I have tenants in my granny flat granny isn't there
A previous man asked for our password and immediately our connection was much slower and would you believe it , he complained!

He was watching loud violent movies on his screen.
I told him the rent did not include WiFi so to get his own which he did.
The present tenant has never asked.

Wyllow3 Sun 18-Dec-22 18:40:40

BlueBelle

How do you change the password Baggs it comes with the modem

No I m not comfortable with it at all but I m also finding it very hard to refuse although I think I ll just say tomorrow that I ve spoken to my provider and they ve said that with my package I wouldn’t be able to

Yes, I'd do that, Bluebelle. Honestly, I'd be worried all the time as its techie beyond me. Just say the providers dont allow piggy backing or whatever its called.

But yes to the flowers and welcome card.

They shouldn't have asked imo. Maybe it would be fair if you were young and clearly techie and could be reasonably expected to risk assess

welbeck Sun 18-Dec-22 18:50:55

they can get a dongle.
it's not fair to guilt trip you with talk of children deprived over xmas.
stand firm. begin the way you mean to go on.
you might think they are nice, and maybe they are, but this has cheeky pluckery written all over it.

Yammy Sun 18-Dec-22 18:54:41

Marydoll

What about saying that you have checked with your internet provider and it's a definite No?
I'm positive that's what they would advise anyway.
That's a simple solution, without offending anyone.

I certainly wouldn't have the nerve to ask in the first place.

I was thinking what Marydoll says before I read her answer . I agree with her. Who knows what they might watch, my GS is a whizz on computers his mum caught him on the dark web in the middle of the night and it would all be on the records of your account if someone did this. You would also have to put child security on your account

Glorianny Sun 18-Dec-22 19:00:37

They shouldn't have asked and you shouldn't be worried about saying "no". Depending on where you live if there is any commercial organisation like a cafe or shop close by they could log into their wi-fi and use that. They should know how. If you aren't happy just saying "no" you could use the old lady "I don't do technology" excuse or a cop out I always like to use "My DS (DD) has advised me not to"

SueDonim Sun 18-Dec-22 19:02:32

There’s no need for them to be without WiFi, BlueBelle so don’t spend a moment feeling guilty. As pointed out, they can use their phones as a hot spot and get internet that way.

I had to use my phone as a hot spot when we were in temporary accommodation over the summer and it worked perfectly well. I just bought Bolt-ons for extra data.

BlueBelle Sun 18-Dec-22 19:40:07

Thanks everyone I ve made my mind up I won’t do it but I can’t help feeling awful I hate saying no to helping anyone no matter what , it has really put me in a difficult position but after just having 6 months fighting with my fuel provider I m really low as it’s been a huge weight on my shoulders I eventually passed it to the ombudsman and they have sorted in my favour with a letter of apology but it all takes a toll doesn’t it
Thanks so much for helping me make up my mind and pushing me gently in a direction that doesn’t sit comfortably for me to do without that bit of pushing

Marydoll Sun 18-Dec-22 19:44:14

BB, you have nothing to feel guilty about.

I remember when I was teaching, many of the parents did not have WIFI access and the children spoke of their parents using a dongle.

They are easy to purchase from sites like Amazon, or is it that your neighbours are just looking for free WIFI?

Beechnut Sun 18-Dec-22 19:45:50

👍🏻

BlueBelle Sun 18-Dec-22 20:08:29

No she offered to pay me Marydoll she is perfectly genuine I know the family they are a decent local business family

nadateturbe Sun 18-Dec-22 20:09:48

Dongle, I knew there was something they could use. I couldn't remember the name.
Do not feel bad Bluebelle. They are at fault, not you.