Quick response from St Anthony!

GrammyGrammy

Praying to dead saints is Mediumship, Spiritism, a form of Witchcraft all forbidden and hated by God. You have also judged Anthony- another sin, expressly forbidden by God. You have no idea if Anthony is judged a true saint or not. That is Jesus' call, and his alone on Judgement Day. You are engaging in superstitious godless pagan idolatry. Just so you know. Glad your passport turned up after all that searching for it. Now, no more talking to dead people.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear...

Each to their own GrammyGrammy! I must sin quite a lot then when I ask for St Anthony’s help! Glad everyone is finding their missing items

Good old St A.

I was brought up that you had to put something in the St. Anthony box in church, as a thank you.
We still have one in our church and all the proceeds go to help the poor, because he is the patron saint of the poor.
There is usually quite a lot of cash in it!

GrammyGrammy, you are entitled to post your opinion here, but please also respect those of others, who do not share your beliefs.

GrammyGrammy. Could we have chapter and verse, references, etc. on God's opinions and views, please?

Oh my some fierce views here! Shouldn’t we allow each to his own at the very least?

I do very little to practise my Catholic religion these days but I am a great believer in St Anthony's ability to help me find lost items. I have never known him fail. My parents were both Irish Catholics and the kindest and most generous people anyone could ever meet. Sadly they both died in their mid-fifties within a year and three weeks of each other. If I could possibly aspire to be even half as good and decent as they were then my life would have been well lived. I believe kindness and compassion will guide us through life and stop us from making many ego driven mistakes.

I simply say, " Dear St. Anthony, please find my .... for me and return it."

Right now, I am hoping he will get round to the gold earing I dropped somewhere last Wednesday.

It sometimes takes him a while though - I forgot my amythist rosary given me by my husband when we got engaged in a hotel bedroom. Phoned the hotel and was told it was no longer there, gave it up for lost, but three weeks later it was sitting in its case, staring me in the face just in front of my three black madonnas. I had most certainly not put it there, nor had it been there when I searched the house for it.

St Rita finds lost property too, and no, you don't need to be Catholic to ask any saint for help, or even Christian for that matter.

As some Frenchman said on his deathbed "God will forgive me, it is what He does." I don't remember who the man was, only that he had been a confirmed atheist all his adult life.

Oh Saint Anthony has bailed me out so many times. He is great for finding parking spaces.

Moggycuddler

It's time people moved away from superstition, and I include religion in that. The "power of prayer" does not help people who often need it most. Those with terminal illnesses, sick children, the homeless and helpless. It's delusion. Those who pray and do recover from illness would have recovered anyway, and, sorry dear grans, but you would have found your lost items anyway.

Have you seen Dr Craig Keener’s scholarly investigation of modern-day miracles, including miracles following prayer, confirming that they exist?

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As a non-believer I'm unlikely to call upon St Anthony which is fortunate for him as he would have a full-time job answering my calls. I lose things all the time - glasses, hearing aids, keys, purse, pens, pencils... I imagine that St Anthony would be more helpful and tolerant than DH whose contribution to the loss of any item is always "...wherever you left it/them".

Do you have to start searching once you've asked St Anthony or will the item just turn up? I've asked him but haven't been searching (I don't know where to search). Will the item appear?

Just to add, my daughter found two missing Brownie badges in her pocket last night as if by magic. We had been wondering where they were but had no idea. Maybe St A thought I was asking about them. 🤔

I believe in miracles as quite a few have happened to me, but believing in God and miracles is not the same as Father Christmas, not every prayer is answered, I don't know why not. But when Leaonardo Da Vinci and the pope painted God on a cloud it started a myth that God is a man with the power to grant wishes it started a wrong idea. God is a life force which we don't fully understand on earth. But there is some mystic force, of that I'm sure

GrammyGrammy, you don’t seem to understand a lighthearted thread when you see it. I am sorely tempted to use an acronym borrowed from MN - five letters, beginning with O and ending with D.

If it’s Catholics you’re referring to GrammyGrammy we do not pray to dead saints, we ask them to pray for us. Asking St Anthony to help us find something is not praying to him.
As with every question Moggycuddler there are different answers, even with God sometimes the answer is “no”.

Today (17th) happens to be the feast day of St Anthony of Egypt.

I was brought up to pray to St Anthony (of Padua) to find things. My mother says this never let her down. I do it myself. Things are very often in the place you think they are. You need to keep looking there until you see it!

GrammyGrammy

Praying to dead saints is Mediumship, Spiritism, a form of Witchcraft all forbidden and hated by God. You have also judged Anthony- another sin, expressly forbidden by God. You have no idea if Anthony is judged a true saint or not. That is Jesus' call, and his alone on Judgement Day. You are engaging in superstitious godless pagan idolatry. Just so you know. Glad your passport turned up after all that searching for it. Now, no more talking to dead people.

It’s always illuminating to have information from one who has a hotline to what god is thinking, and er……hates.

My DM was brought up a Catholic , attended a convent and knew all the saints and prayers.
These are the things she never forgot despite losing her Catholic faith and becoming a Quaker later on.
I am sure my God will not disown me for asking for assistance from wherever it may come!
Superstitious? Moi? must put some money in the box

GrammyGrammy

Praying to dead saints is Mediumship, Spiritism, a form of Witchcraft all forbidden and hated by God. You have also judged Anthony- another sin, expressly forbidden by God. You have no idea if Anthony is judged a true saint or not. That is Jesus' call, and his alone on Judgement Day. You are engaging in superstitious godless pagan idolatry. Just so you know. Glad your passport turned up after all that searching for it. Now, no more talking to dead people.

walk on by if you don't like the thread!

I'd forgotten about St Anthony! I've now asked him to help me find the lovely calendar I bought last year in Peggs Cove Canada which at the time we said it would cheer us up in the dark winter days back home. I remember unpacking it and then ???? I might also try another of my late mum's 'helpful' suggestions and tie a knot in a hankie!

Maybe your losing your marbles Witzend.

tigger

Oh Saint Anthony has bailed me out so many times. He is great for finding parking spaces.

I though that was the parking fairy? That's who my friend calls upon, and it often works

My theory is that St. Anthony hides things in the first place. Otherwise how could he be so successful at finding them?

Hmm...what hocus pocus is this I hear?! It's a weird one, how even though you may have deffo looked at that place before, when you look again....there it is! This happens so often there's something afoot and t'aint natural 😅

I'm deffo no god-botherer but some fond it comforting so I say live and let live, so long as nobody tries to convert me or shove their beliefs on me I'm cool with whatever others believe. And this coming from a gal brought up by the Catholic mafia too!! I got chucked out for good behaviour......