The consecrated oil for King's Coronation

Thanks welbeck oil can be used at the discretion of the priest and is used by the C of E for ceremonies such confirmation etc.
When I was confirmed (C of E), holy oil was used.

25Avalon

I read something about it coming from near where Prince Philip’s mother or grandmother is buried?

Interesting.

Yes, Princess Alicess became a nun of the Greek Orthodox Church, I think. She was a brave woman who hid Jewish people from the Nazis.
She was buried at the Mount of Olives.

Yammy

What a load of expense Lidl oil never mind Waitrose would have done, whose to know? I thought this was meant to be a progressive Charles not a" Divine right of Kings one".

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Well, I supposed if it has been blessed but I don't think the C of E uses oil from Lidl for anointing.

I'll ask 🙂

Lidl Greek olive oil is very good, btw!!

What do people think of this news story about a Quran? Has a hate crime taken place or is it a load of old superstition?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-64835023

AskAlice

Genuine question, not intended to cause offence. When my babies were baptised oil wasn't used, nor was it used at my GCs christenings. The cross was made on their foreheads with water from the font - is it different with other Christian religions? We are C of E.

The water was meant to be from the river Jordan {maybe symbolic] but I've seen it coming out of the vestry tap!!! I'm Methodist. Baptists used to have a pool in their church and they fully emerged where I lived.
My daughter was a bridesmaid for her Indian friend and they were meant to drink water that was brought back from the Ganges.

My daughter was a bridesmaid for her Indian friend and they were meant to drink water that was brought back from the Ganges

Having watched Sue Perkins' programme about the Ganges I wouldn't even water my plants with it!

Jaberwok

Children are always baptised with holy water in the C of E, the anointing with oil of a new monarch is totally different to welcoming a person into the fellowship of the Church. I sometimes wonder why some people have children baptised as they clearly don't believe in or understand anything to do with baptism. Better to let the child decide for itself when they are adults and can make an informed decision.
As for K.C or C being divorced, the Church is much more relaxed about this since 2002, and there is a precedent, George 1st was divorced in 1694, and was crowned King of England in 1714 without any problems.

Jesus wanted children to be brought to him.

Parents want that to, if they get them baptised.

Callistemon21

^My daughter was a bridesmaid for her Indian friend and they were meant to drink water that was brought back from the Ganges^

Having watched Sue Perkins' programme about the Ganges I wouldn't even water my plants with it!

Exactly she kept well away and said it looked like Dysentry never mind catching it from it.

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Our rivers are absolutely no better. Sewerage anyone? Polio and other nasties has been found in Thames water.

No plans to clear it up either.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001jw6p

Our rivers are in a terrible state. There’s getting to be quite a bit of publicity about it - and hopefully some action.

I was fully immersed when I was baptised. It was water, though ,no oil around. It was a symbolic act which I chose to participate in after I became a believer, nothing mandatory about it. The whole service was very meaningful for me and I will never forget it.

More coronation twaddle and hype.

Yes parents who are believers of course want their children baptised, I did. I was talking about parents who are not, and normally never go near a church service, and like some church weddings, have it for the photos and to be seen to be doing the right thing. My parents and the high Anglican Church which we are, believed that a person couldn't enter the kingdom of heaven unless you were baptised and for that reason the unbaptised were buried in unconsecrated ground. I nearly died as a baby (Osteomyalitis) and was hurriedly baptised in hospital as a precaution, with I'm told Lourdes water.Ummm??!! I however do not believe this and these days neither does the Church.

..... and I guess that there are things the church now believes that it will not in the future ........ it's all such a moveable feast, a pick and mix smorgesbord to suit the ages we live in.

Bridgeit

Same principle applies to Easter (eggs, bunnies)
Christmas, Birthdays ( trees ,baubles , pressies if you are very good )

No, that’s not true, sorry.
All of those things are Pagan symbols and traditions that have got mixed in with Christian celebrations.
They have nothing in common with holy oil at all.

All this mystical mumbo jumbo at the taxpayers expense. I have not time for it. I would have had more respect for Charles if he had settled for a "quick flick" oath taking in front of parliament as they do in the Scandi countries. Instead millions of pounds of public money is being wasted (yet again) at a time when many ordinary people struggle with basic bills. No wonder so many people are so appathetic to the monarchy now. Its not a good look.

Mumbo Jumbo? Again why is it that only the Christian faith is derided and sneered at, while other faiths, and their traditions are respected, tolerated and of course never questioned or queried, quite rightly so too, but try being a Christian and,God forbid wear a symbol that advertises your faith, and you lay yourself wide open for ridicule. Burn a bible and no one cares, ,burn the Quran? prepare for religious wrath!

Well said Jaberwok.
I expect the coronation will bring the tourist income that all big royal events attract, bglouis. Perish the thought that we should ever dispose of centuries of tradition and the accompanying pageantry for which the country is renowned in favour of some ‘quick flick’.

Well said Jaberwok

Absolutely rightly said, Jaberwok and Germansheperdsmum

I think the Coronation will bring in plenty of revenue, tourists, mugs, teatowels, and other various commemorative items, so not all financial gloom. I for one am looking forward to 3 days of celebration,not much to ask out of 365, which will hopefully lift some peoples spirits. Certainly more than a quick nod to Parliament!

FannyCornforth

Bridgeit

Same principle applies to Easter (eggs, bunnies)
Christmas, Birthdays ( trees ,baubles , pressies if you are very good )

No, that’s not true, sorry.
All of those things are Pagan symbols and traditions that have got mixed in with Christian celebrations.
They have nothing in common with holy oil at all.

That's right, none of those are Christian traditions.

However, the timings of the Christian festivals do coincide with ancient pagan festivals so both traditions became blended.

Nothing to do with holy oil.

Jaberwok

Mumbo Jumbo? Again why is it that only the Christian faith is derided and sneered at, while other faiths, and their traditions are respected, tolerated and of course never questioned or queried, quite rightly so too, but try being a Christian and,God forbid wear a symbol that advertises your faith, and you lay yourself wide open for ridicule. Burn a bible and no one cares, ,burn the Quran? prepare for religious wrath!

Well said.

I am not a devout Christian now but I would defend anyone of any faith and respect their views unless they lead to extremism or alienation from their family.