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Feeling anxious about husband being misunderstood in the world now controlled by the wokeness police,!!

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sankev Thu 27-Apr-23 22:55:42

I don’t remember there ever being such a word as ‘woke ‘ when I was a child, now it seems to be used in every sentence (maybe a slight exaggeration) but I am truly sick of it!
My DH has had several strokes and other health problems, and though recovering well he often comes out with things that we now consider inappropriate. Calling a receptionist ‘darling’ ( locally used frequently by older generation) or similar such things. Nothing too terrible but he is beginning to get some disapproving responses. Thankfully nothing too serious but hopefully you get the gist.
Problem is I’m beginning to get anxious when we are out and find myself correcting him. This is both unfair on him and though I do it respectfully it feels as though I’m being derogatory.
Does anyone else have similar issues or am I just being overly sensitive? I probably haven’t explained myself very clearly but hopefully you get the idea. He’s a lovely gentleman and very friendly and I feel so sorry for him when people don’t react the way he expects.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 28-Apr-23 17:06:18

volver3

Nicenanny3

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

See this is what happens.

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch.

Oh, and telling you that you're not worth calling "darling" anyway.

Can you not show some sympathy for the OP and her husband volver. That was cruel and unnecessary.

Kalu Fri 28-Apr-23 17:13:12

Callistemon21

volver3

Nicenanny3

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

See this is what happens.

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch.

Oh, and telling you that you're not worth calling "darling" anyway.

Blimey!

What happens if they call you Duck?
I dread to think!

Or hen, which is heard in our part of the world.

I haven’t heard the expression, cool with me, since the sixties. Is it making a comeback ? Not too sure I could still use it at 73.

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Apr-23 17:13:19

Germanshepherdsmum

volver3

Nicenanny3

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

See this is what happens.

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch.

Oh, and telling you that you're not worth calling "darling" anyway.

Can you not show some sympathy for the OP and her husband volver. That was cruel and unnecessary.

By they do you mean people like sankev's husband, volver? People who have had strokes, a brain injury or dementia?

I'll repost my link, it might be helpful to those who have no experience of dealing with people who have become disinhibited due to such conditions.

www.stroke.org.uk/effects-of-stroke/changes-to-behaviour

Whatever happened to compassion?

Marydoll Fri 28-Apr-23 17:20:29

Callistemon21

Germanshepherdsmum

volver3

Nicenanny3

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

See this is what happens.

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch.

Oh, and telling you that you're not worth calling "darling" anyway.

Can you not show some sympathy for the OP and her husband volver. That was cruel and unnecessary.

By they do you mean people like sankev's husband, volver? People who have had strokes, a brain injury or dementia?

I'll repost my link, it might be helpful to those who have no experience of dealing with people who have become disinhibited due to such conditions.

www.stroke.org.uk/effects-of-stroke/changes-to-behaviour

Whatever happened to compassion?

I wondered about that too. It is certainly lacking from some of the posts.

volver3 Fri 28-Apr-23 17:22:34

So, to all those who have decided to tell me off.

Get off your high horses. I told the OP several pages ago that I was sympathetic to her plight.

Someone else brought up crotches (and apologised, I know). Someone else decided to say that another poster wasn't worth calling "darling".

And, in case you are interested but I'm sure you are not, I have experience of dealing with somebody with Lewy Body dementia whose "filter" was way off.

volver3 Fri 28-Apr-23 17:25:07

Callistemon21

volver3

Nicenanny3

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

See this is what happens.

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch.

Oh, and telling you that you're not worth calling "darling" anyway.

Blimey!

What happens if they call you Duck?
I dread to think!

Strange that you though it was funny until the "tell her off" bandwagon trundled by.

Primrose53 Fri 28-Apr-23 17:29:42

Germanshepherdsmum

volver3

Nicenanny3

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

See this is what happens.

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch.

Oh, and telling you that you're not worth calling "darling" anyway.

Can you not show some sympathy for the OP and her husband volver. That was cruel and unnecessary.

Cruel and unnecessary indeed!

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Apr-23 17:33:30

🤔
It wasn't meant to be a joke btw.

My turn in the barrel again!
Roll out the barrel, it's getting quite crowded today.

grumppa Fri 28-Apr-23 17:51:33

A charming young Glaswegian lady has just bumped into me and said Oops, sorry darling! I have not taken offence

Marydoll Fri 28-Apr-23 18:28:56

As a Weegie, that did make me smile, grummpa.

MerylStreep Fri 28-Apr-23 20:26:15

Callistemon
I think your getting a bit too comfy in that barrel 😂
I think we should stencil your name on it.

Fleurpepper Fri 28-Apr-23 20:27:13

Depends so much who, where, why and how. If some poncy idiot clearly patronises me in a condescending way- he will get put in his place. But mostly, no problem at all- as said, living and working in the Potteries and Leicestershire, in the 70s and 80s- I just got used to it, and loved it.

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Apr-23 23:29:09

MerylStreep

Callistemon
I think your getting a bit too comfy in that barrel 😂
I think we should stencil your name on it.

It gets a bit bumpy at times 😂

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Apr-23 23:30:42

some poncy idiot

😂😂😂

bikergran Sat 29-Apr-23 09:57:16

Good grief I am so glad I take no notice of these kind of things, I work in a supermarket and receive all sorts. " thanks love" from elderly, younger chaps, we have much older men come in and after helping them out through the notorious self serve, it can be a "your an angel" "ohh thankyou so much" " thanks darling" if I had to report the many things that are said, then most of the older/younger men would be locked up behind bars. I take no offence what so ever (unless something nasty of course).

Siope Sat 29-Apr-23 10:24:19

Of course, if there was such a thing as the ‘wokeness police’, and if they controlled the world, everyone would have a deep understanding of disability, and the challenges people with disabilities face.

biglouis Sat 29-Apr-23 10:43:30

In my native Liverpool people still freely use "luv", "darlin" and "mate". Its just part of everyday argot.

Some posters have suggested that a man calling a woman love or darling is patronising because he would not use such terms to another man. Instead men can employ such terms as "mate" and "pal" in a tone of voice which is anything but friendly.

hollysteers Sat 29-Apr-23 13:20:32

Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Good job you don’t work in the theatre.

hollysteers Sat 29-Apr-23 13:58:01

sankev

I don’t remember there ever being such a word as ‘woke ‘ when I was a child, now it seems to be used in every sentence (maybe a slight exaggeration) but I am truly sick of it!
My DH has had several strokes and other health problems, and though recovering well he often comes out with things that we now consider inappropriate. Calling a receptionist ‘darling’ ( locally used frequently by older generation) or similar such things. Nothing too terrible but he is beginning to get some disapproving responses. Thankfully nothing too serious but hopefully you get the gist.
Problem is I’m beginning to get anxious when we are out and find myself correcting him. This is both unfair on him and though I do it respectfully it feels as though I’m being derogatory.
Does anyone else have similar issues or am I just being overly sensitive? I probably haven’t explained myself very clearly but hopefully you get the idea. He’s a lovely gentleman and very friendly and I feel so sorry for him when people don’t react the way he expects.

If your DH has had several strokes and other health problems, you have more to worry about than what the rest of the world thinks.
Let them jump in the lake.

Millie22 Sat 29-Apr-23 14:27:47

We have lots of these expressions in Leicestershire ... darling love m'duck all meant in a kindly way.

Whatever happened to people being more considerate to each other. I would not take offence at being called darling. It happens to me often at work.

pascal30 Sat 29-Apr-23 14:42:16

Isn't it interesting how many of these terms are poultry based duck, love a duck, chick, chicken, chicks, duckie, bird, and hen

Just musing..

OurKid1 Sat 29-Apr-23 14:59:05

volver3

^if the person being called darling is not aware that an elderly man may have always called women darling, then they need to be more aware/woke.^

If the elderly man had always called people of colour ni**ers, would that make it OK to keep doing that?

Its not that he has always done it, its that his "filter" may have gone. That's what other people need to be aware of.

There is a whole world of difference between using the N word and calling someone darling.

FannyCornforth Sat 29-Apr-23 15:28:12

pascal30

Isn't it interesting how many of these terms are poultry based duck, love a duck, chick, chicken, chicks, duckie, bird, and hen

Just musing..

Duck actually comes from the Anglo Saxon word ‘ducas’ which was a term of respect, like boss or guvnor.

Many of the animal ones are because names for young animals and birds became interchangeable with terms of endearment for little children.

Did the West Midlands ‘chick’ morph into the Lancastrian ‘chuck’, I wonder

FannyCornforth Sat 29-Apr-23 15:30:19

And I suppose that chickens and ducks were the most widely ‘domesticated’ animals.

Apparently, ‘bunny’ was first used for little children, and then some how got attached to rabbits

Hithere Sat 29-Apr-23 15:39:07

Being considerate to each other doesnt mean one person has to accept and submit to what the other is doing, despite the intentions being good or innocent

The N word is a good example, it illustrates how society changes

When something becomes unacceptable, why keep saying "i have always done it this way, i dont mean to insult you?" expecting others to just accept it and not even question it?

I have empathy for others - something else is using a medical condition to justify what has annoyed multiple people already

A medical condition is not a blank card to be accommodated by others no matter what and not try to at least remediate on the patient's end

How i hear it?
"I am how i am and it is your issue that you do not accept my explanation for what you consider unacceptable behaviour
So you choose to be "woke" despite my explanation - that's your problem, not mine and this is not my fault"

This is the main issue with me
If being called darling bothers me and i tell you so and why, i would accept it slips out due to years of practice
However, i would also expect you to try to meet me half way or make an effort to acknowledge my concern