Corbyn now Angela Rayner another reason not to vote Labour 🤔

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MerylStreep

MayBee70
One of the reasons people in senior positions get rid of people is because they perceive them as a threat.
Another is that some people aren’t afraid to point out that the emperor has no clothes.
That doesn’t make you a good leader. Sooner or later your going to be found out.

Who has Starmer seen as a threat?

I’m not sure it’s relevant when we’re currently living under a government where four prime ministers have been forced out since 2010, and a total of 39 Cabinet ministers have, excluding reshuffles either been sacked, resigned in disgrace, or quit with an axe to grind at the government. I don’t see Starmer surpassing that somehow.

Rayner is an embarrassment, not a threat - depending of course on who you’re trying to appeal to,

Is she more embarrassing than Dorries? Is that possible??

….or Truss…

Why do you say she is an embarassment. ?Would that be more of an embarassment than Johnson or Hancock or indeed Truss ?It's rather a glib statement unqualified ,as it is.
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Is Rayner more of an embarassment than the Tory ministers trotted out to recite that day's script on the various news channels. You know the ones I mean. They can't even answer a simple question.
Come on !

Who is the woman that gave the finger to the press?

Remind me who is uncooff and vulgar😄😄😄

Great choice, well done her

Well I like her. She says it as it is.

Germanshepherdsmum

Rayner is an embarrassment, not a threat - depending of course on who you’re trying to appeal to,

I don't find her embarrassing, she is as much a product of her upbringing and opportunities in life as most people. She didn't choose any of it but what she has done is turn her disadvantages into something positive and for that I have huge admiration. I'd rather like her to tone down some of her language but I think that says more about me than it does about her.

I cannot believe how many think that she would not be an embarrassment as deputy PM. Uncouth and uneducated. Appalling.

Could somebody post that picture of Coffey smoking that cigar?

I think Dorries, Truss, Shapps, Rees Mogg, Fabricant, Hunt, Barclay, Anderson et al are all good reasons for not voting Tory.,

But she is not deputy PM so I think you are answering a completely different scenario. Ask me how I feel about Lee Anderson being deputy Chair of the Conservative party and I can give you an answer, because he does hold that position. Actually I think he's pretty uncouth and uneducated and I don't hold that against him, what I dislike is his complete lack of empathy and willingness to change his politics to suit his purpose, which I believe is self-aggrandisement.

Here you are Maybee. Sky News. Oh dear, I hadn’t seen this before, she does seem to have a talent for looking a sight.

Not a good look for a previous health secretary is it .

Germanshepherdsmum

You cannot be serious!

Yes I am, I feel he was treated abysmally!

Maybe he couldn't decide because he knew it would be a failure but knew that the 'majority' of the people wanted to do all the stuff BoJo promised ....? Don't know, but do think he was trustworthy, not in it for what he could fleece from the general public, which most seem to think is their right nowadays ....

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Angela had a terrible start in life, worked hard and is now Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, she is aspirational for our girls
Dear me, there are some terribly snobbish comments on here.
Class isn't definable by how much you have or how you speak,it's who you are and how you treat others.
That's real class.

There is no legal requirement on Starmer to appoint a Deputy PM.

Snobbery is pretty vile. No-one has control over the world they are born into, we're just lucky or not. When you are born into disadvanataged circumstances, you get given the worst of everything but if you manage to pull yourself up by the bootstraps, which in my view takes grit, the middle classes still judge you harshly. Whereas born with every advantage the middle classes still look up to you and forgive your bad behaviour and think you worthy of high office. Double standards indeed. Bullingdon club or Toffs behaving very badly!

The level of snobbery and hypocrisy here made me laugh. The tories promoted the awful Lee Anderson because he’s working class and ‘tells it like it is’. That’s their view, certainly not mine, he’s an ignorant bigot.
I wasn’t impressed when Corbyn put Angela in education but I was being judgemental about her lack of formal education. I’ve grown to like and admire her. She had a very difficult , deprived childhood. She benefitted from surestart then education through her union and union roles. Her intelligence, determination and commitment led her to being an MP and deputy leader of the LP. Unlike Johnson and co, the over privileged Bullingdon boys who have no idea what tough lives many live.

If I could select, it would be Yvette Cooper or Jess Phillips but if it’s Angela- fine by me

Nicenanny3

Angela Rayner as Deputy Prime Minister God help us 🙏

What do you think?

I'm sincerely hoping God does help all those who share such a bigoted, intolerant and narrow-minded attitude.

There will be many areas where I would disagree politically with Ms Rayner, but I can only admire her as a person. Presented with a life containing very few advantages except those that came from within her, she has done brilliantly.

The OP reads like the Nasty Party in full flood, with it's supporters recognising they have nothing but bile to offer.

I do wonder how those who criticise her compare in their achievements in life.

Iam64

The level of snobbery and hypocrisy here made me laugh. The tories promoted the awful Lee Anderson because he’s working class and ‘tells it like it is’. That’s their view, certainly not mine, he’s an ignorant bigot.
I wasn’t impressed when Corbyn put Angela in education but I was being judgemental about her lack of formal education. I’ve grown to like and admire her. She had a very difficult , deprived childhood. She benefitted from surestart then education through her union and union roles. Her intelligence, determination and commitment led her to being an MP and deputy leader of the LP. Unlike Johnson and co, the over privileged Bullingdon boys who have no idea what tough lives many live.

If I could select, it would be Yvette Cooper or Jess Phillips but if it’s Angela- fine by me

She's a hypocrite. Sam Tarry springs to mind. She sides with the cultist trans lobby. She calls me scum. Sorry but certainly no fitter than Hancock , if that's her stance.

Are we still damning her for her lack of university education? Which do we prefer, someone with practical training in useful skills, e.g. Social Work, or Oxbridge Alumni with double firsts in 'Greed and Entitlement'?

Class isn’t definable by how much you have or how you speak, it’s who you are and how you treat others.

Yes indeed.
Remind me, what did Rayner say in Parliament?