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Dinahmo Thu 24-Aug-23 16:24:52

The following is an article from The Washington Post. Rather long but interesting I think.

"Age bias doesn’t show up only as blatant discrimination (“We want someone younger for that job.”) or snarky birthday cards. One of the most potent sources of ageism comes from older people themselves, and like other forms of ageism, the self-inflicted kind is associated with lower levels of emotional and physical health and can slash years off people’s lives.

People, however, can shift these negative feelings to improve their well-being. When older people are reminded of the many positive things about aging, they can experience immediate benefits such as becoming stronger and having more will to live, said Becca Levy, a professor of epidemiology and psychology at the Yale School of Public Health who is a leading expert on the health effects of ageism.

“Age beliefs are not set in stone,” said Levy, author of “Breaking the Age Code: How Your Beliefs About Aging Determine How Long & Well You Live.” “They’re malleable. That’s a really key piece.”
What is internalized ageism?

Internalized ageism is the negative voice in a person’s head that may push them to take extreme measures to look younger (Madonna’s radical facelift) or tell themselves they’re having a “senior moment” every time they forget a name.

hese attitudes are nearly universal: Over 80 percent of people between ages 50 and 80 subscribe to ageist stereotypes, according to a study led by Julie Ober Allen, assistant professor of health and exercise science at the University of Oklahoma.

The irony is that in reality, the vast majority of older people feel in good health and are satisfied with their lives. But you’d never know that from how older people are portrayed in advertising and entertainment — forgetful, cranky and frail.

It may seem counterintuitive to hold a prejudice against yourself, but internalized ageism takes hold in a sneaky way. It begins in childhood, with fairy tales about evil witches, and deepens over time thanks to negative messages we absorb from the media and society, experts on aging say. Then at some point, when we notice our hair graying or younger people start offering up their seats on the bus, the toxic age beliefs that we casually assimilated while they seemed to be about other people suddenly turn personal.

“The extent of older persons actually believing themselves to be inferior from others because of their age is staggering,” said Marvin Formosa, associate professor of gerontology at the University of Malta.

People deny their age, even to themselves, he said, and the fast-growing anti-aging industry caters to those impulses. Americans spent $5.4 billion in 2022 on anti-aging skin products, according to market research from Euromonitor International.

Age bias doesn’t just sell anti-wrinkle creams. It affects how people think, feel and act.

In her research, Levy exposes older people subliminally to charged words about aging — positive stereotypes such as wise and accomplished, or negative ones such as senile and dependent — while they are playing a computer game. Before and after the game, her team asks participants to complete tasks such as reproducing from memory a dot pattern they’d previously viewed, talking about a stressful event, walking a short distance and balancing.

When people unconsciously absorbed uplifting words about aging, they showed improvements in memory, their blood pressure and heart rate were reduced while recounting a stressful event, and they walked faster and had better balance. Conversely, after unconsciously absorbing age negativity, participants had worse recall and a heightened stress response.

Levy has also tracked people over time and found that older people with more positive age beliefs were much less likely to develop dementia, even when they carried an Alzheimer’s gene.

In another study, she found that people who had internalized more positive age beliefs lived, on average, 7.5 years longer. Research by other teams has confirmed her findings.

Levy’s hypothesis, based on her research, is that internalized ageism worsens health through three mechanisms.

When you think decline is inevitable, you’re less motivated to take your medicine, eat well and exercise.
Feeling bad about getting old can lower self-confidence, which can make people withdraw (one recent study, for example, found that internalized ageism made people want to retire early).
Negative emotions about aging can raise people’s biological stress levels, putting them at risk for heart disease and stroke.

Changing habits is also key to Levy’s three-part strategy to reduce internalized ageism.

Recognize ageism. “If we’re not aware of some of that messaging, then it’s hard to resist it and question it and not take it in,” Levy said.
Shift the blame from age to ageism. A doctor told Janine Vanderburg, of North Fork Valley, Colo., that her knee hurt because she was getting older. Vanderburg, 70, thought, “Then why does my other knee feel fine? It’s the same age.” She insisted on an MRI; “I had to push for that.”
Challenge anti-aging messages in advertising, politics, everyday conversations — and your own thoughts.

People who have a purpose and feel confident they can achieve their goals may be less susceptible to internalized ageism, said Andrew Steward, assistant professor of social work at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee.

He and a colleague tested whether exercise, volunteering and computer use reduced people’s negative age beliefs, and found that older people who participate in these activities had more positive self-perceptions about aging. “If we engage in a healthy lifestyle in these variety of ways, that can mitigate the negative impacts of internalized ageism,” he says.

Internalized ageism is so normalized it can be hard to spot. It even comes in the form of compliments such as, “You haven’t changed a bit” or “You don’t look your age.” Last year, Aalda created an Instagram project — Say Your Age! — for women to “out” themselves as the age they are, and in June, ageism activist and fashion entrepreneur Jacynth Bassett’s social media campaign, #ILookMyAge, went viral.

Thousands of people, mostly women, have posted exuberant photos and videos of themselves, and content related to the hashtag has gotten more than 27 million views.

“When people say you don’t look your age, well actually, you’re basing that on your internalized ageist attitude of what it means to look a certain age,” Bassett said. “You have this box.”

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 24-Aug-23 16:49:58

Very interesting: thank you for bringing it to my attention Dinahmo.

Dinahmo Thu 24-Aug-23 16:52:28

I'm certainly guilty of referring to senior moments. Having read the article I must do something to be more positive.

Hithere Thu 24-Aug-23 16:52:52

100%

PamelaJ1 Thu 24-Aug-23 17:32:53

Well I’ve just been on a bit of a break.
So so happy to come into contact with many OLD people (well slightly older than me!) volunteering at Brooklands, and Silverstone. So interesting and knowledgeable.
I admit that I’m ageist but I’m not sure that it always a negative attitude.

foxie48 Thu 24-Aug-23 18:10:44

I'm mid 70's and I have to admit I avoid spending time with many people my own age as they want to talk constantly about their ailments. My Sis is the worst, I had a heart problem during the pandemic and tbh she seemed rather pleased that I had an ailment to talk about except I really didn't feel the need to discuss it. So yes, I guess I'm a bit age biased.

Staceyann Thu 24-Aug-23 18:53:03

Interesting article. Perhaps, as we do get older, even if fit and healthy, we start to prepare ourselves for a time when, inevitably, we won’t be able to do all we could as a much younger person.
Some interesting pics on the Instagram account -

Aveline Thu 24-Aug-23 19:22:20

I think I'm biased the other way. I give more credence to what people 40+ say and do than youngsters.
The surgeon who did my last op looked far too young. I asked him if he had enough experience to perform it and he took it in good part (luckily!). He told me he'd done 1000s of knees and that he was, 'Brilliant at hip replacement!'. Can't say that filled me with confidence but he did very well- for a laddie!

MercuryQueen Thu 24-Aug-23 19:44:37

I think age bias exists across a spectrum. Young adults have to deal with people dismissing them as incompetent, ignorant, lazy, tech addicted, etc.

Older adults are dismissed as being out of touch, ignorant, tech phobic, etc.

No matter your age, someone will be along shortly to explain why you’re wrong.

MerylStreep Thu 24-Aug-23 19:59:41

foxie48

I'm mid 70's and I have to admit I avoid spending time with many people my own age as they want to talk constantly about their ailments. My Sis is the worst, I had a heart problem during the pandemic and tbh she seemed rather pleased that I had an ailment to talk about except I really didn't feel the need to discuss it. So yes, I guess I'm a bit age biased.

Couldn’t agree more 😉

Callistemon21 Thu 24-Aug-23 20:37:31

MerylStreep

foxie48

I'm mid 70's and I have to admit I avoid spending time with many people my own age as they want to talk constantly about their ailments. My Sis is the worst, I had a heart problem during the pandemic and tbh she seemed rather pleased that I had an ailment to talk about except I really didn't feel the need to discuss it. So yes, I guess I'm a bit age biased.

Couldn’t agree more 😉

I have a friend who's 80 and she talks about her ailments, some of which she's had since childhood.
She seems fitter than me but I can find much more interesting things to talk about than ill-health.

Forgetfulness - I think I had more brain fog when I was pregnant or trying to juggle too much in my 40s.

Face cream - of course, that's why I don't have as many wrinkles as my 60 something friends!! 😃

My knees are worn, though!! But that's not necessarily age, it's a muscular-skeletal defect.

Smileless2012 Thu 24-Aug-23 20:45:39

I agree MercuryQueen, it isn't dependant on age.

MerylStreep Thu 24-Aug-23 21:00:00

I gave up on a close friends cousin.
After a couple of years of listening to her health file I thought ive got to change the subject
As we were sitting looking out at her lovely garden I pounced on that as a good diversion, WRONG 😡 that only led her into another diatribe of why she couldn’t do the garden 🤦🏼‍♀️

I told my close friend I couldn’t listen to it anymore.
Just in case anyone’s thinking this is a lonely old lady, no!!
She goes out everyday. Dances 2 nights a week and goes with her boyfriend to a club every weekend. She’s 86.

CanadianGran Thu 24-Aug-23 21:11:31

Yes, I believe we are all a bit guilty of ageism.

As a car slowly pulled into traffic from a side-street without proper checking, my DH mumbled something about little old ladies... as we pulled up beside the car, I saw my DH was correct. It could be that the deduction was based on the model of car. the time of day and the neighbourhood, but never-the-less he was correct.

But I agree with MercuryQueen in that age bias exists across the board. Many of us make assumptions based on age, and also on looks. We may have to kick ourselves once in a while. and try not to make assumptions. Age level doesn't always show a measure of ability., and we need to try to keep our minds open.

M0nica Thu 24-Aug-23 21:42:11

I do not think I suffer from internal ageism because internally, the person who is me has no age. In my head I am the same person I have always been so as I have no age, I cannot be ageist about it.

What is ageist is is the common assumption that all people of a given age, have aged similarly and lost their faculties equally

I am one of those fortunate ones who has aged well, but I was 80 a few days ago and the number of people, including medical staff who have said to me openly and admiringly in the last few weeks 'you look much younger than 80', is too numerous to count, and I am supposed to be delighted by the compliment and smile and thank them, when the temptation is to tell them not to be so nonsensical and go and look at a range of 80 year olds and realise just how varied they are

There are many women my age who have aged as I have, but people just have a stereopypical idea of what a person of a given age looks like and if you are 80 you are old, grey, unsteady on your feet and frail, and there is nothing you can do to chnage people's perceptions.

The other weekend, I walked to the house of someone in my village, it was only about a quarter of a mile, a round walk of barely half a mile. We had a chat and despatched our task and when I got up to go and she realised I had walked round not driven, she immediately offered me a lift home, and it was clear she felt the round trip of half a mile must be beyond someone of my age. My daily walk. If she but knew it, was 3 or 4 times as long as a round walk from my house to hers and back and I meet lots of people my age when I do it.

That such a description probably doesn't apply to most 80 year olds, not even some 90 year olds, yet does apply to some 70 year olds never seems to occur to them. They look for the signs of age

Callistemon21 Thu 24-Aug-23 21:46:11

There are many women my age who have aged as I have, but people just have a stereopypical idea of what a person of a given age looks like and if you are 80 you are old, grey, unsteady on your feet and frail, and there is nothing you can do to chnage people's perceptions

I'm not grey, hope I don't look 'elderly' but in fact, you're only as old as your knees ☹

Aveline Fri 25-Aug-23 08:06:56

Oh no- in that case I'm a toddler!

fancythat Fri 25-Aug-23 08:15:58

I agree with some very valid points of that article, and not others.
It is taking me a while to digest it, so may write more later.

But for now, I think it is good to be realistic. Important even. People on here trying to future proof their house for instance. I think that is wise and being realistic.
And thinking about what they will do when older and may be in worse health, again wise and realisitic.

I think it is a bit of a balance. Well that is what it seems to me at this point. I am early older age.

I may be unusual, but I like listening to other peoples' health problems. From a selfish point of view, I try and learn about health. So I can use the knowledge for myself or others, as I get older.
But I do find, rather surprisingly to me, that we all seem so different, that there are a myriad of health issues people have. So 1 set of problems doesnt seem to necessariyl help someone else.

Redhead56 Fri 25-Aug-23 08:31:33

My bones and joints are a lot older because of arthritis I am 67 next month but my head still thinks I am young. I am not bias about age it’s just a number you could be in your 90s and be ignorant or in your 20s and be wise.
I get cross especially in shops when referred to as dear. People do seem to think if you have white hair you are old in some way helpless.

Hetty58 Fri 25-Aug-23 09:03:25

Inside I still feel like I'm in my twenties (until my back plays up, that is). I don't like the assumptions and expectations of others, though. I've been told that I shouldn't be up a ladder cleaning windows (or picking apples) by complete strangers - what a cheek. They believe that old means weak and frail.

If I'm in the front garden, digging, doing DIY or carpentry, neighbours and passers by offer help I don't need. Lately, delivery drivers offer help taking in shopping, too - when it's obvious I'm much stronger than they are.

Another thing I've noticed is they think that old equals stupid. I often mention my teaching career and frequent use of IT/new technology to counteract that assumption.

I haven't seen a doctor, dentist or optician for ages and others find that quite strange - why?

M0nica Fri 25-Aug-23 09:18:22

Hetty58 I so agree, your experience is the same as mine.

Hetty58 Fri 25-Aug-23 09:29:24

M0nica, and all those little chats about minor medical problems bore me rigid too. Maybe I'm being 'ageist' but it seems to be the main (or only) topic for some people. Why do they think I'll find the workings and faults of their bodies fascinating? I'm just saying 'Good morning' not after an update!

Taichinan Fri 25-Aug-23 10:29:41

Such an interesting article - thank you OP - and so many thought-provoking comments. My own belief is aging is inevitable, so accept it! My elder sister used to complain bitterly about growing old - to which this annoying younger sister used to ask "Well, what's the alternative?". She did all the right things to 'stay young' - she played tennis until she was 75 when her shoulder became too painful, she surrounded herself with younger people, kept her interests wide, kept active and walked with friends each week and her looks were very important to her - but in the end she died at the age of 89. What have I learned from that? Well, I shall be 82 next week and am lucky to have good health, and lucky to have an interest which sees me teaching two classes of tai chi each week. I am also lucky to have a lovely house with an ever-changing beautiful view of hills and sky and water and a garden with a pond where I can sit and watch the goldfish for ages at a time. I could go on, but you're bored already!
The best way to challenge ageism is to show the ageists that age isn't inevitably bad, and to do that we should live our lives the best way we can to bring us greatest joy and above all adopt an attitude of gratitude. Why do people think age and aging is a bad thing? Could it be because those who have been lucky enough to reach advanced years keep on complaining about it? ........

Skydancer Fri 25-Aug-23 10:43:43

Such a fascinating article and much food for thought. Thank you for sharing it, OP.

Farzanah Fri 25-Aug-23 11:24:26

Very interesting topic Dinahmo thanks for posting. There are so many facets to this. Ageing is inevitable unless you die early, and to some extent how we are physically into our 70s and 80s is dependent on good genes.

Of course there is much we can do to keep our brains and bodies active, such as healthy eating, exercise, socialising and importantly to keep learning.

It’s a pity that because we live in a youth culture we feel that we have to try and disguise our age instead of celebrating how diverse older women are, as indeed are young ones.

Witness the numerous threads on here about cosmetic surgery, face creams, weight loss, hair dyes, and so on.

Let’s just embrace old age whatever we look like, and enjoy it whilst we can.