Woman of the Year

BlueBelle

But he’s not a she violetsky Dylan Mulvaney has a penis, he has had facial surgery to make him look more feminine but hes still got his tackle
He’s a male
So yes I m sure he is very happy

Some people support liars, in particular male liars. Others believe any lying is wrong.
I don’t think you can choose which lies are acceptable, but there are always those who do choose.
VS, Is the new excuse for accepting lying calling it logical?

As a LGBQT+ award surely dylan should have won transwoman of the year and there should have been a separate category for lesbian of the year? and so on

That would make sense wouldn't it JaneJudge.

Smileless2012

That would make sense wouldn't it JaneJudge.

It would make sense and be honest as well.

It would.

But common sense flew out of the window a while ago, along with the biology textbooks.

Sparklefizz

Once again natal women are being erased.

I’m not erased. Are you? Does this honestly impinge on your day to day life?

Domestic violence doesn't impinge on my every day life, prostitution doesn't impinge on my every day life, they are still things I hold views on.

Galaxy

Domestic violence doesn't impinge on my every day life, prostitution doesn't impinge on my every day life, they are still things I hold views on.

Hear, hear.

What is being ignored is that we are being conditioned to accept the narrative that TWAW - and it's jolly well working isn't it?

We are being habituated to believe that a man with a penis can be a woman on the basis of him saying so. Worse, we are being discouraged from questioning this belief - because that is what it is - a belief. Look at the cancelling and no-platforming of those who've spoken against this belief.

Women's whole experience of womanhood; biology and science are being summarily dismissed as transphobic by arrogant men who don clothes and make-up to present their idea of what a woman is. In short, they are defining womanhood to women.

So yes - we jolly well do have a view on it.

Quokka

Sparklefizz

Once again natal women are being erased.

I’m not erased. Are you? Does this honestly impinge on your day to day life?

Does it matter if something doesn't impact on us personally?

We can still know the difference between right and wrong, have views on subjects which may not impinge on our everyday lives and want to let our voices be heard on many subjects.

Why should women be silenced?

Well put Callistemon.

A lot of things may not impact us personally,- the activities of JS, the Hamas attack, the TRA violence against JKR, for example.
Does that mean we should be apathetic about things that do not impact us personally?

Quokka, do you mean we should just sit there and do nothing until it does impact us personally?

Dressing up to look like a woman, or a dragon, or a policeman, or a doctor is OK if it’s not part of a lie.

Dressing up to be a woman in a mental health ward or a female domestic refuge where traumatised women are affected is part of the same lie as a man winning a competition as a woman.

What kind of a world would we be living in if everyone only concerned themselves with what impacts on them personally?

'The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing'.

Smileless2012

What kind of a world would we be living in if everyone only concerned themselves with what impacts on them personally?

'The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing'.

Absolutely.

And in case the million times people have said this are not enough, it is not that we are anti-trans - we are anti the idea that being a woman is an option for anyone who wants to be one, and that womanhood comes down to the things that society has decided are gender-appropriate.

Women are still women whether we bake cakes, fix cars, wear dresses, climb trees, fight in wars, have babies, wear jeans, sleep with men, sleep with women, sleep with both at the same time, drink pints, are emotional, rational, keep house, run businesses, do both, or do all of the above. If we have female chromosomes and hormones we are women.

Men can also do any and all of the above and really really want to be women, but they aren't. They can be transwomen, and ask to be treated as though they are women (which is as close to the idea of 'living as a woman' I can imagine).

I say good luck to those who do that because they want to or feel compelled to, but not to those who want to invade and colonise women's lives, or who see being female as a safer option, or an easy way out. Maybe it is if you are bigger, stronger, earn more, have the testosterone that helps you to push yourself to the front in a patriarchal society and so on, but using those characteristics against members of the sex you claim to want to belong to is not 'sisterhood' in any sense of the word.

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When I recently wrote to Bucks WI with my concerns about transwomen being forced on us, they replied that they had to forward my email to National WI as anything to do with transwomen can only be dealt with by National. Just like Putin and his henchmen being in charge of ALL their propaganda.

Bellanonna

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I second that "that" 🖕 from Doodledog

Very noticeable is the fact that the activists when they are out in force with their placards, use the aggressive language and terminology of the misogynist when a woman has dared to defy him. As well as threats of rape and violence.

Sisterhood, my foot. "Be kind"... or else... more like.

Iam64

Absolutely sickened by this. Dylan was born male in 1996. The New York Times reports she transitioned to female beginning March 2021 and has reportedly earned more than a million dollars from endorsements including fashion and cosmetics. She has 10 million followers on top tok. She grew up in a wealthy privileged family.

Her lived experience is nothing like that of other 26 year old women. S.he may well have faced emotional struggles due to her gender confusion. She didn’t grow up as a girl, she didn’t go through puberty or negotiate her way through school , into employment. Im insulted that she is given any woman of the year award. I’d have no problem with her being trans woman of the year but leave awards for AFH

I second that!!

I third that !

I fourth that!👆

Fifth!

On the radio this morning I learned about Delusional Misidentification Syndromes, a group of delusional disorders that occur in the context of mental and neurological illness.
They all involve a belief that the identity of a person, object, or place has somehow changed or has been altered.
Fits here.

That's very interesting Mollygo and I can see how it can fit in some cases, but not those where so called trans women retain male genitalia, or those who simply identify as women when all they do is dress in what they consider to be women's clothes etc.

Galaxy

Domestic violence doesn't impinge on my every day life, prostitution doesn't impinge on my every day life, they are still things I hold views on.

Huge difference between violence and sexuality. Or do you take ‘erased’ to mean something else?

What the fuck are you all doing comparing transgender with domestic violence, Hamas, and all the evils perpetrated (usually) by men. Get a grip laydees!

But it's not about sexuality, that is who you are attracted to, it is not the same thing.

If my grandson suddenly wants to wear a dress and call himself Susan that’s OK. If he dons a uniform, picks up a sub machine gun and starts shooting people that’s not ok.