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The return of David Cameron

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LilyoftheValley Mon 13-Nov-23 15:09:00

What a very clever move indeed to bring David Cameron back into the Cabinet. Tories all must be shaking in their boots with a General Election nigh and the shambolic government at present.

David Cameron was respected by a great many people and his return must give a much needed boost to Tory morale. The chap has a backbone.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Nov-23 12:50:01

Blair is a Knight Companion - so that would be sufficient to be going on with I would have thought😄

Caleo Tue 14-Nov-23 14:28:41

Wwm turns the other cheek and wins the repartee :-

"Primrose53

Germanshepherdsmum

So who else would you suggest who has the experience and diplomatic skills to deal with what’s happening in the world?

I think whitewavemark2 would only welcome anybody with a red rosette. 🤣

Of course! "

Fleurpepper Tue 14-Nov-23 14:32:46

Caleo

Wwm turns the other cheek and wins the repartee :-

"Primrose53

Germanshepherdsmum

So who else would you suggest who has the experience and diplomatic skills to deal with what’s happening in the world?

I think whitewavemark2 would only welcome anybody with a red rosette. 🤣

Of course! "

Not sure. Would it wrong to have the choice of someone elected, competent and without so many shadows over him (his relationships and dodgy payments from China and dodgy businesses, for instance).

Bumface Tue 14-Nov-23 15:01:32

As a Labour supporter I think the whole lot of them should go.
My husband is a Conservative voter and even he thinks wheeling on David Cameron is a mistake. Do we really need yet another Eton/Oxford out of touch toff? Having made a complete pig's breakfast of Brexit he needs to buzz off and stay buzzed off. Surely the stranglehold of the public school, Oxbridge educated male should be ended. Do we really think that the same elite who have governed us since the nineteenth century still have all, or even any, of the answers to the present day crises facing so so many of us? A change of government is essential before any more damage is done by the present wrecking crew who seem to have run out of effective policies and ideas.

Babsbada Wed 15-Nov-23 11:42:13

This whole Tory party fiasco surely can't get any worse can it? David Cameron was responsible for the biggest national error of judgement for a generation resulting in our catastrophic exit from EU.
I'm not even going to mention the lobbying scandal!
Anything in the country better than it was 13 years ago and anybody better off apart from people like David Cameron?

Jaxie Wed 15-Nov-23 11:45:39

Humble? He’s an over-privileged posh boy who has no idea what life is like for those at the bottom of society. Smooth-faced smugness personified.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 15-Nov-23 11:46:48

Your opinion, assuming you don’t actually know him.

Nagmad2016 Wed 15-Nov-23 11:46:52

Well, he did get a peerage out of it. Even better life ahead for him and his family.

Nannapat1 Wed 15-Nov-23 11:53:40

Is no one else concerned about the fact that, having been made a lord for that purpose, her can only sit in the House of Lords? Not so easy to hold him to account.

MayBee70 Wed 15-Nov-23 12:09:46

Nannapat1

Is no one else concerned about the fact that, having been made a lord for that purpose, her can only sit in the House of Lords? Not so easy to hold him to account.

I think the Speakers looking into that aspect of it.

Marmite1953 Wed 15-Nov-23 12:13:15

Sorry I have to disagree Cameron is a coward and will do more harm than good …no matter what ..it’s only going to get worse and IF Labour do win the next election …then we are doomed

Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Nov-23 12:14:29

Interesting to hear Starmer talk about Cameron and the Chinese.

There is a scandal there waiting to blow up.

leyburn Wed 15-Nov-23 12:15:51

Cameron is just another corrupt traitor. Like much of the government he is a member of and is working for the World Economic Forum, not the UK. The one world government is getting closer all the time.

Lostmyglassesxx Wed 15-Nov-23 12:20:30

Choice of words wrong I am afraid .. find me a politician with back bone and I will eat my hat ..

LizzieDrip Wed 15-Nov-23 12:28:33

I am livid at Cameron’s return! His damage to this country goes back much further than the Brexit debacle. He was the architect of austerity which began the destruction of our public services. Austerity has been shown, by economic commentators, to have been an unnecessary political choice, aimed solely at cutting spending for public sector services - a long-held Tory ideology. Cameron began the decimation of this country; spit his dummy out when his Brexit plan didn’t work; and now he’s been undemocratically reinstated in a plot by Sunak to make the Tories look a bit more electable after the Braverman shambles. Shame on them!

Airdrieonian Wed 15-Nov-23 12:32:59

David Cameron must have acquired the backbone when he left parliament, it certainly wasn't obvious when he was PM. No backbone there, infact not much of anything, bland. Created the problems then left.

red1 Wed 15-Nov-23 12:37:39

pathetic, what about the fraud with his hedge funds?!
the govt must be so arrogant that they think we do not have a memory! What about the bedroom tax, the demonisation of the poor, the treatment of the disabled, atos sickness suicides, need i go on? will they bring osbourne back in the limelight? a pair worse than thatcher.

Dianeliza Wed 15-Nov-23 12:40:57

Cameron and Johnson are both hypocrites, and out for themselves. They have ruined this country.

ruthiek Wed 15-Nov-23 13:33:17

I honestly think if the referendum was ran again we would stay so it makes d sense to perhaps build closer ties with Europe

DrWatson Wed 15-Nov-23 13:43:16

For Winterwhite, the "inviolable will" was actually stated by Dave & George (not the wretched Mrs May) in that glossy brochure they sent to every UK household, strongly recommending a 'Remain' vote, and to be careful where you put that 'X', as it would be a BINDING vote.

He/they were so confident the country would vote 'Remain' that they didn't have the simple commonsense to say that, for such a momentous decision, it wouldn't be enough to have a narrow win for 'Leave', it would need to be a chunky majority, 15% or so (57.5 to 42.5 or better). Had they done that, the country would be in a different place.

I don't blame him/them for having that referendum (UKIP had gained massive popularity, winning councils and the like) -- but that simple failure to state a minimum amount of opinion for such a huge change was just daft.

Nannan2 Wed 15-Nov-23 13:56:18

I would suggest that the conservatives move on.....

DrWatson Wed 15-Nov-23 13:56:46

For Jaxie - and others -- "over-privileged posh boy" - well, generally a mistake to get too enthusiastic about politicos of any badge. They invariably have a pot of incompetence and corruption to dip into.

I'm no special fan of any party, but I suggest you look at Starmer's history for 'posh boy', and as he's presently being advised by Mandelson, who's now a Lord having been suspended so often by the Labour Party that I lost count, don't hold your hopes too high on that front?

Re Cameron being a Lord, well, other Foreign Secs have been just that, makes little difference. You could look at the blinding incompetence of Major and Heseltine, tried to bankrupt the country on 'Black Wednesday' (or 'ERM fiasco') - now a Sir and Lord respectively. And the Mandelson I mentioned above, now a Lord, not sure where of, somewhere called Greasy Pole perhaps?

At least Cameron, if he's Foreign Sec, should find it easier to visit his offshore interests? And for those hoping to get an EU membership back, well, if you look at the posher papers that aren't dominated by 'Celebrity' twaddle, various EU interests have been muttering about snuggling back together a bit, as they've realised their own interests are being damaged by the split. Cameron is a friendly face to them - though they might have conceded a little more when he did the rounds in 2015 and if so, we might never have left?

polly123 Wed 15-Nov-23 14:32:50

He did a disappearing act when Brexit didn't work out as he expected. Just another 'posh boy' with money and status on his mind.

Bazza Wed 15-Nov-23 14:48:21

At least his trousers fit.

Forlornhope Wed 15-Nov-23 15:03:37

Has anyone seen a picture of him taken in the last 48 hours that doesn’t show him smugly, smirking? Not a good look on a ‘respected statesman’.