Glorianny
Rosie51
Glorianny
Rosie51
Glorianny I don't think there is any basis for equality in women's sport and there is a great deal of evidence for that. I don't understand what you're saying. If it's women's sports shouldn't be restricted to biological women, then any males whether or not they identify as women would be allowed and no female will stand a chance of winning. Biological females bottom of the list once again.
I think if you choose to ignore the ignominities CS had to go through, and which many other black athletes have undergone that is up to you. But there is no doubt that many see what is happening as racist and discriminatory. Claiming it isn't or you don't see it really doesn't make things equal.
You can read more about it here www.aclu.org/news/racial-justice/simone-biles-shacarri-richardson-and-how-the-olympics-failed-black-women
And more from the ACLU www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked
One day you might actually address the points made, and not resort to insinuation and insult.
Simone Biles is a biological woman, Caster Semenya is not. I do not want Caster Semenya banned from female races because of black skin, but because Caster has enjoyed a male puberty. ACLU can spout as much as it wants, but male puberty develops longer, denser bones, a larger heart, increased lung capacity, and more twitch muscles. These advantages are not eliminated by magic words. I don't want anybody to suffer ignominies and now with DNA testing available from a simple cheek swab nobody needs to. Historical acts should not be a reason to let males compete in the female class.
The ACLU link states that trans athletes are "banned" from participating in sports in USA. That's not the case at all, they are quite welcome to participate in the correct sex class events. Of course non of the transwomen are good enough to challenge for medals, scholarships etc in the male sex class. As for non-binary individuals, do they want non-binary races, as they don't identify with either male or female, although every last one of them is one or the other. Interestingly there was a road race recently that awarded prizes to the fastest men, fastest women and fastest non-binary. All 3 non-binary prizes went to males, what a huge surprise! I'm still waiting for a male athlete to be beaten out of a medal place by a transman. It hasn't happened yet and you have to wonder why, if there really is no male body advantage.
I don't believe in a Christian God, but when people say there is one I don't brand them liars. so you say 'yes I agree" on pain of being called a bigot if you don't? When was the last time anyone tried to force you to believe in their Christian God, and act in accordance with their beliefs?
If you choose not to care about the heartbreak of female athletes who have trained hard for years and years, only to be beaten to a place or medal by a newly transgendered male, then that's up to you. Of course in the USA college scholarships are often awarded on the basis of sporting success. If you are happy with females being unfairly disadvantaged in their education prospects by a male then you have different ideas of fairness to me.
As far as your post about inequality goes Rosie51 I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that your statement about biological females being "bottom of the list" was based in ignorance and not on prejudice. However if after reading the two links you are still of the same opinion, it has to be prejudice. Because what is patently obvious from those links is that black women are substantially more bottom of the list.
That appears to be an area you are quite content to ignore simply to target transwomen.
There is little equality in women's sport. There are many papers about this, about how things are run mainly by white men, and how black women in particular suffer from preconceptions of what is acceptable as a woman.
If including transwomen stirs up women's sport and brings this discrimination into the limelight it is surely a good thing.
And as is so obvious you have to insult. So be it.
The ACLU? That one that decided on the anniversary of Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death they would "honour" her by using her quote on abortion
The decision whether or not to bear a child is central to a woman's life, to her well-being and dignity. When the government controls that decision for her, she is being treated as less than a fully adult human responsible for her own choices.”
but couldn't bring themselves to use woman, she, her etc so butchered the quote to use
“The decision whether or not to bear a child is central to a [person’s] life, to [their] well-being and dignity. When the government controls that decision for [people], [they are] being treated as less than a fully adult human responsible for [their] own choices.”
When there was outrage at this they eventually apologised. Ruth Bader Ginsburg knew exactly what a woman was, and the problems women face at the hands of men.
Have you ever read any studies about the human body and the differences between the adult male body and the adult female body? I actually think testosterone levels are a distraction, lowering them in transwomen or other males does not shorten or reduce density of their bones, shrink their hearts and lungs, and any muscle loss is minimal. That's why it can never be fair for males to compete against females in those sports that have traditionally been segregated. Can you perhaps guess why males and females have had separate events until these last few years?
Your total disregard for female athletes whose chance of a college education is stolen from them by males who transition after the benefits of male puberty is saddening, but even worse it's disgusting that you use black women to justify white men stealing prizes from them. The inequality of sport run mainly by white men won't be rectified by introducing more inequalities and deliberately and cynically harming women.
I assume by white men you mean white adult males? With your varied use of men it can be hard to know.
