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hollysteers Wed 03-Jan-24 03:05:54

What is the perceived threat if photos are posted of babies, toddlers and young children if their faces are shown?
We have so many photos of the backs of children or their faces blurred. If the Prince and Princess of Wales are not bothered (Harry and Meghan don’t allow it of course..) why is the rest of the world so concerned?
Maybe I’m being naïve, but I’d like to be enlightened.

Iam64 Sun 07-Jan-24 12:04:22

Hollysteers seems perfectly capable of standing up, defending her views. Others are entitled to disagree with her. That isn’t ’being Nasty’

25Avalon Sun 07-Jan-24 12:04:47

Just seen this thread. Re CCTV cameras not only do there have to be warning signs but you have to state the purpose usually something like to detect a crime. Children in lane are not committing any crime and therefore you cannot copy the photos unless the police were to ask for them.

MerylStreep Sun 07-Jan-24 12:27:02

Ellcee and Kayteetay
Believe me I reigned in my anger and disgust at someone who outright refuses to acknowledge that the world has a huge problem with pedophilia. 😡

LovesBach Sun 07-Jan-24 12:41:40

I have found this mildly irritating - thinking in particular of the Johnson children, and photos of Carrie with the back views of her children. There is no need to publish photos them at all. It was important in my area of employment to ensure that photos of children were not published without parental permission, as estranged partners would then know the whereabouts, and in certain circumstances this could present a danger to the children.

knspol Sun 07-Jan-24 12:57:31

Read almost any newspaper nowadays and discover a rason why not to post children's images online. Nothing at all to do with purity of mind rather naivety.

Skye17 Sun 07-Jan-24 13:29:00

//nearly 80% of parents say they have social media connections whom they have never met in real life. The images parents share can contain information that allows predators to track children. For example, images might show the child’s school or uniform, or the street name of the family home, while geotags can allow people with nefarious intent to track the child’s real-time location. In addition, because parents cannot control how far these photos spread, it is impossible to know where they end up, even with privacy controls in place. As such, it is important for parents not to engage in [sharing] images of their child and minimize the ability of potential predators to find and abduct the child.//
www.kaspersky.com/resource-center/threats/children-photos-and-online-safety

Fernhillnana Sun 07-Jan-24 13:43:20

Gosh I’d never post pictures of ANYONE online. Not myself either! But I’m a definite minority. (As are my tech savvy son, daughter and spouses).

ExaltedWombat Sun 07-Jan-24 15:49:22

We used to be so excited when we appeared in a picture in the local newspaper! But they ALWAYS spelled our names wrong, didn't they? :-)

I've just searched out the web sites of a few schools nearest to me. They all have plenty of perfectly recognisable photos of students.

Kathmaggie Sun 07-Jan-24 15:59:18

I feel quite sick and extremely worried by this thread. My D in L regularly posts pictures of my DGC on facebook. I’m not a member but a friend commented that photos taken recently are beautiful. Now I am so concerned, I feel I must have a conversation….

Marydoll Sun 07-Jan-24 16:37:03

ExaltedWombat, there is something wrong with Safeguarding and knowledge of GDPR regulations in the schools you visited.
It makes me wonder how many others with more sinister intentions have trawled those sites.

To those posters who think so, the responses on here are neither harsh nor judgemental. Some posters are very experienced in this area and have undergone extensive training.
Hopefully posters have been made more aware of this issue.

MerylStreep Sun 07-Jan-24 16:44:03

Kathmaggie
It’s very possible that your friend is in your daughter in laws group on FB. But still wise to have a word.

Nantotwo Sun 07-Jan-24 17:22:27

One of my grandchildren is adopted. Right up to the time of legalising the adoption the parents had visitation rights. The parents were antagonistic against everyone understandably as they were losing their baby but they were young and very irresponsible and unable to care for a child even with a lot of support. No one posts photos of him online where he is identifiable as it's a risk. Likewise, someone we know who escaped a domestic violence situation with her children makes sure they aren't visible on photos so that her ex husband cannot find them.

Marydoll Sun 07-Jan-24 18:04:35

Nanatotwo, a good example of the dangers of posting photos of children.

Fairycakes Sun 07-Jan-24 18:15:45

hollysteers
I'm glad you asked the question bc I'd always wondered the exact reason for not photographing children. I knew it was a safety measure and that children who were adopted or fostered had to be protected, but was not aware of the other reasons. I learnt my lesson the hard way; many years ago I put photos of my toddler grandsons on a forum. Others were doing it and I felt so proud of them. However, someone began contacting me with very long messages, saying how beautiful the children were, and at first I thought nothing of it. But then they began wanting to knit items for the children and although I told them no (firmly) they wouldn't take no for an answer. They wanted my home address to send the items they had made for them.

I admit I had been foolishly naive but that certainly awoke me to the dangers of showing off my grandchildren or revealing too much. I unsubscribed from the forum (it was the only way to get rid of them in the end). I have never posted photos of family members since. I don't even have a Facebook.

spabbygirl Sun 07-Jan-24 18:59:45

some bad people might manipulate the photo to put other bodies on there doing unspeakable things, after years in child protection I have heard of similar. I wouldn't want that done to my kids, or anyone else's for that matter.

Saggi Sun 07-Jan-24 19:33:54

Kids have rights ,and one of them is NOT to have their images posted all over stupid social media. What a daft question .

Sarahr Sun 07-Jan-24 20:03:22

Images can be used to locate children or their family, who have been victims of abuse or crime.
We had a child in our children's club who was living in a place of safety. Any photos of the child on social media could have led to the perpetrator locating the child.
Also, images can be used by paedophile etc. as they are often tech savvy and can photoshop images.

Dizzyribs Sun 07-Jan-24 21:19:35

This might help
www.google.com/search?sca_esv=596408074&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB768GB768&hl=en-GB&sxsrf=ACQVn0_I1KpcMAwwB5mMnO4vNJm28PXVeA:1704662036287&q=posting+children%27s+photos+on+social+media&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwii64n5mMyDAxV3QkEAHV05DgoQ0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=375&bih=553&dpr=2#fpstate=ive&ip=1&vld=cid:aa7100e5,vid:I3cYlVWu5Dk,st:0

LovesBach Mon 08-Jan-24 10:11:07

The OP has been told, among other comments, that she is daft, naive, kidding herself, and has been invited to stay where she is, in another country.
How refreshing to see the continued enjoyment of polite and civilised debate here on Gransnet..

Glorianny Mon 08-Jan-24 10:49:08

I've just looked at my GC school's website and there are photographs of children on it. I believe schools are permitted to do this providing they obtain consent from the parents.

I would never put children's photos on any social media.

As far as hugging teachers goes, my GD has always been a very demonstrative child and hugged her teachers. Even aged 10 she rushed across the school yard to hug her favourite teacher who had taught her in reception class.

hollysteers Mon 08-Jan-24 12:07:23

LovesBach

The OP has been told, among other comments, that she is daft, naive, kidding herself, and has been invited to stay where she is, in another country.
How refreshing to see the continued enjoyment of polite and civilised debate here on Gransnet..

Thanks LoveBach. It’s not surprising Gransnetters are afeared to start threads.
Being anonymous truly can reveal the nasty side of peoples natures.👍

Louella12 Mon 08-Jan-24 12:19:17

There will be millions and millions of photographs of children online. Think of all the children in adverts and on television.

These disgusting people have no need to trawl the likes of FB for any charming children.

They go elsewhere.
No need for this talk of superimposing either. That was a couple of decades ago.

Kathmaggie Mon 08-Jan-24 16:39:36

MerylStreep Thankyou for your reassuring comment - you were right regarding my DiL’s friend.

Iam64 Mon 08-Jan-24 18:21:13

Marydoll, my primary school teacher daughter hugged children. She worked in a very deprived area. I went to the nativity a few years ago, a 4byear old boy arrived late, weeping, he ran and climbed on her knee.
My grandchildren go to two different local primary school. Hugs do happen, thankfully.

I don’t see the disagreement with hollysteers as ‘nasty’. The OP has posted her own critical views of safeguarding in the UK, of course that’s ok, she’s entitled to see things differently. But, accusing posters with vast experience of safeguarding as exaggerating the risks is rude an inaccurate

Marydoll Mon 08-Jan-24 19:35:39

Iam I hear what you are saying.
I worked in one of the most deprived areas in Scotland and were were not allowed to hug as much as we wished we could. Those were the rules.