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Do you always obey the rules or use common sense sometimes?

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kircubbin2000 Sun 21-Jan-24 11:31:41

We live in a nanny state and a lot of people do what they are told regardless.
I'm thinking king of a couple of things. We were at an event in a sports centre where barriers were used to let ticket holders through(like on the tube) and IN and Out were clearly marked.
When it was over all the gates were open and as I was going through the main exit my friends stopped me and told me we had to use the smaller OUT gate.
On another outing we had decided not to go on a museum tour and I suggested we could go for coffee and meet up with the rest of the party after their tour.
The other ladies were reluctant as Betty the leader might not approve!

M0nica Sun 21-Jan-24 23:36:20

I amone who has always questioned the rules when I can see no point of them - and given a reasonable explanation will obey them, but far too many rules are introduced entirely for the administrative convenience of those making them

biglouis Mon 22-Jan-24 00:34:28

I obeyed the rules during covid since I rarely go out anyway.

What did make me angry (and still does) was seeing a bunch of so-called asylum seekers protesting about halal food and wifi at the height of the lockdown. Considering how the police were harassing some people for sitting on a bench or following them with drones this was a disgrace. Yes there were police around but only to protect these whingers from the justifiable anger of people who were born in this country (as opposed to having entered it illegally).

Redhead56 Mon 22-Jan-24 00:49:36

The rules in place during lockdown I complied with but silly little rules like single file when there are other means of exit no. I have never in most circumstances been a sheep and I never will I follow my instincts as a shepherd.

Louella12 Mon 22-Jan-24 01:29:36

I've not read the whole thread and not sure if this is actually a rule. But here goes!

Red man/green man when crossing the road. Its so important to teach children they need to look at the traffic as well as what color the little man is.

A 7 year old boy was severely injured recently. He was waiting with his mother, man went green and he just bolted on to the road. Sadly a car was approaching and didn't stop.

So the wait for the green man rule needs to be wait for the green man and check there's no cars coming

M0nica Mon 22-Jan-24 10:13:44

Louella Yes and No. The child obeyed the rules - waited for the green man and crossed. It was the rule that was at fault, for not including the proviso that you should then check that any approachng.traffic had stopped.

A classic example that blind obedience to the rules is not a good thing. (although, at the age of 7, this child was too young to know this)

bridie54 Mon 22-Jan-24 10:52:09

The stupidest ( I know that’s not a word) rule I know is one from Barclays Bank.
For over ten years ( since I bought my house). I have periodically received letters for the previous owner who left no forwarding address. I marked the first few ‘Return to sender, Not at this address’
When they kept coming I opened one to check it was nothing important, it wasn’t, so I rang Barclays and explained I was the new owner and had been returning letters for years,even writing in the envelope that I was the new owner/occupiet.
I was told that the Barclays Legal Dept require them to use the last known address.

And they have continued to do so to date despite me telling them I will no longer return mail to them. It goes in the recycling so at least not wasted. .

Efs1 Mon 22-Jan-24 11:42:01

Definitely agree with that.

Cossy Mon 22-Jan-24 11:45:04

Yes, I’ve often broken rules, especially those I consider daft! It hasn’t always served me well but I was brought up to be curious, questioning and a free thinker, not appreciated at school nor at many jobs! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Cossy Mon 22-Jan-24 11:46:54

BTW I did comply with the Covid rules and I also despair that whatever topic we are discussing someone seems to have to bring in asylum seekers, really?

nanna8 Mon 22-Jan-24 11:51:54

Most rules I would obey but not all. If I can’t see the point and it is just arbitrary I don’t. I certainly would obey things like road rules, always. They don’t have ‘keep off the grass’ signs here but if they did I wouldn’t!

SeaWoozle Mon 22-Jan-24 11:52:22

Not following the rules?

Someone books an outing for a group of people who decide that actually they'd rather just go and have a coffee instead? You're not a rule breaker, you're rude, entitled and don't deserve Betty's efforts.

As for walking the wrong way through exits/entrances?! Fill your boots, just don't get in the way of others!

petra Mon 22-Jan-24 11:58:34

When this description ( oppositional defiance disorder) was used in relation to my granddaughter the family said well we know where she gets that from Me 😂

Sonicbear01 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:06:17

Unfortunately, the blind obedience of sheeples following the dictates of those who profess to 'know better than the rest of us' and lie as a matter of course to retain power (red, blue, and any shade between), are the reasons the UK is in deep moo-poo right now. Deliberate creation and/or exacerbation of divisions amongst the proletariat - are the ways to keep control.

Amalegra Mon 22-Jan-24 12:22:03

I follow sensible rules but many are so ridiculous they seem to invite the breaking of them! It’s as though the general population are so infantilised that we cannot be trusted to look after ourselves or judge the risk to anyone else. I think there is sometimes an element of government etc control and we know the poor quality of their decisions! Unfortunately there are always some jobsworths eager to enforce petty rules and others who would not dream of challenging them.

petra Mon 22-Jan-24 12:30:54

Amalegra
David Camaron set up the Nudge Department in 2010.
It came into its own ( didn’t it 😉) in March 2020.

Grand2dogs Mon 22-Jan-24 12:46:53

Covid rules were a must for me, as in the December prior I was diagnosed with Vasculitis (GPA) it was out of control so I was (still am) on strong immunosuppressive drugs. I went out for my walks in the country and sat at home petrified. My wife was told by her GP (because of me) to come home immediately then lock down happened. Her employers didn’t follow the rules they wouldn’t listen to the Doctors they wouldn’t help her in any way so she left. We followed those Covid rules we both got jabbed up a year later and we both during that time got equally frustrated by those who didn’t care and broke every. Covid guideline or rule they could. If I had not been CEV would I have still followed the rules? Absolutely I could not coped with the fact I had infected a CEV person.

NannyC1 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:49:12

Pantglas2

“This is exactly what I did when I worked busy football saturdays in Liverpool when both teams were playing at home.”

Not sure that ever happens BigLouis…

Rare, but if both were drawn at home in FA Cup...
(Mind you these days one would probably play on a Saturday, other on a Sunday)
It does happen twice a season when they are playing each other!

Mojack26 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:51:51

I'm a 'rule breaker' where common sense prevails! So what if 'Betty the leader didn't approve' If no harm is caused to anyone or anything use common sense!

Mojack26 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:55:11

That's a completely different situation from one described above. These type of rules should be adhered to as they could adversely affect others health

win Mon 22-Jan-24 13:19:48

When someone organises a coach trip and you sign up to go on that trip you normally know the agenda in advance. Often you have free time to do what you like too. If you leave the party except for the free time you aren't covered by the insurance the organiser usually has for the group as it is a huge responsibility to be in charge of a group. You can easily misunderstand where you are meeting up again, you can be taken ill and so many other things can go wrong if you go off on your own. So no Betty mayn't like it. She should however not have changed the agenda if that is indeed what she did, it depends what was agreed when you signed up. I organise many group trips for our support group and am not best pleased when some strong headed person decides to go off with 4-5 others in tow. It causes an atmosphere and huge worry for the organiser. It can easily spoil the whole trip for your fellow group members too. Always turn the coin around and think about how you would feel yourself. Organising a trip takes a lot of usually volunteering time and effort, it is only courtesy to what you have initially arranged to do. OP's examples are very weak indeed. in particularly as she then later states that the museum visit was not on the original Agenda. So there were no rules broken that case. It sounds like you do not like this Betty who in charge!!

jocork Mon 22-Jan-24 13:23:00

I worry about people who blindly follow the 'Use by' date on things and even more so the 'Best before' date. I use common sense, sense of smell and taste and don't generally suffer any unpleasant consequences. I wouldn't give out of date food to a guest as they may be more sensitive than me but I wonder how much perfectly good food is thrown away by rule followers who can't bring themselves to break what they see as a rule. I recently polished off 3 'out of date' yogurts on consecutive days, the last one being a week past it's 'use by' and am still around to tell the tale!

Gundy Mon 22-Jan-24 13:51:58

I’ve always said “Rules are made to be broken.” Hahaa… that’s my rebellious streak

I’ve broken rules, I follow rules, I make my own rules, then I break those. But so far I have not ended up in jail. So far, so good.

I do think archaic rules need revisiting. It’s a different world.

Louella12 Mon 22-Jan-24 14:01:30

Gundy

I’ve always said “Rules are made to be broken.” Hahaa… that’s my rebellious streak

I’ve broken rules, I follow rules, I make my own rules, then I break those. But so far I have not ended up in jail. So far, so good.

I do think archaic rules need revisiting. It’s a different world.

Ha! My dad always says that

Cossy Mon 22-Jan-24 14:11:09

Gundy

You sound like my kind of person haha grin

Pantglas2 Mon 22-Jan-24 14:34:54

“It does happen twice a season when they are playing each other!”

Agreed, average 50,000 fans on those and cup draws NannyC1 but that’s a huge difference from 90,000+ every Saturday for nine months which BigLouis was suggesting …