Breeding animals for money.

caknib

Some people seem to have managed to comment without a huge amount of information.
Always good to get a range of views.

So you don't know any details - do you want us to comment or not?

If not, why start a thread?

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I'm sorry GSD,I don't want to go into this here and in all honesty I don't know the answer.

Is she a registered breeder? How many cats is she breeding from?

There is a huge problem with cats not being neutered. Sadly many end up fending for themselves. Female cats have a dreadful life being raped - it is particularly dreadful especially when they are still kittens themselves. As with dogs the rescue centres are overflowing and many are pts when they have nowhere to go. Others find themselves being used as bait. Yes dog fighting happens with cats being used as fun. For the non believers as an example of what does go on please look at New Hope rescue based down in Essex - Niall works full time as a dog warden and also offers a much needed lifeline to unwanted animals.

Quite a lot of things are both lawful and problematic. Some things are unlawful and perhaps shouldn't be.

I've no problem with people taking on dogs from rescue centres but with children as regular visitors I need to be confident that they don't have any issues and tbh many of the dogs who come from rescue centres do have issues and need experienced owners and careful rehoming in order to thrive.

Very well said foxie48

Some dogs should never be rehomed, even from a normally reputable centre and with an experienced owner some can be very unpredictable and possibly dangerous.

If it's lawful what's the problem?

IMO the biggest problems are unregistered breeders and the people who are willing to buy from them. I have dogs and they have always come from a registered breeder, I like to see the mother with the pups and I also like to know who the father is (even better if I can see him too). When I buy a puppy he is going to be a member of my family for the rest of his life, I need to know that the dog comes from a good breeding line, has a good temperament and has been tested for any of the genetic problems associated with the breed. I've no problem with people taking on dogs from rescue centres but with children as regular visitors I need to be confident that they don't have any issues and tbh many of the dogs who come from rescue centres do have issues and need experienced owners and careful rehoming in order to thrive. FWIW registered breeders work within strict rules about how many litters a bitch may have and at what age they can have a first and last litter. All my dogs have come from family type homes where they are well socialised and cared for and I have no problem in paying a decent price for them as they are a lot of work as young pups.
I've also bought horses, all horses have to be passported but again breeding is very important. Breeders sell at different stages but I've always bought rising 5 year olds, generally they have been weaned, spent a year or so with other youngsters, had some basic training on the ground so they are safe to handle, then been sold on to be backed and start their education as a riding horse. You don't get horses like this from rescue centres and hopefully horses that have had a good start to their lives and are well bred never end up in a rescue centre.
I've never paid for a cat, mostly they are the result of people failing to spay or neuter their cats and they are happy to find good homes for the kittens but then again, I've never gone for anything other than a moggy!

I doubt any welfare organisations would do anything, unless the queen (no, not her!) was in a really bad way.

It doesn't worry me if someone is licensed, informs HMRC, cares well for the animals and ensures the kittens or puppies go to good homes.

I do think that unlicensed breeders, puppy farms etc should be shut down and the animals found good homes. Some of these breeders have been given prison sentences, quite rightly, as the animals were sick and suffering.

However, there is a world of difference between these breeders.

There are enough animals in rehoming centres, if you want an animal for the right reasons then it shouldn't matter which breed it is.

Spend not end.

If the cat is pedigree and she has a licence no problem. These cats may be very expensive. What she chooses to do end the money on that she makes is no one's business.
You have stated she will have let HMRC know, and if the RSPCA call they will find no problem with the animals welfare.

I think cats are headed down the same route as dogs these days.
Half lynx, half cat, all sorts of variations

merlotgran

Multiple holidays?

They must be jolly expensive kittens!

Lykoi?
Bengal?
Savannah?

British Longhair kittens are sweet but I suppose they'll grow into cats 🐱

I’m against all breeding unless by licensed ones and then again, only for a limited number. I’ve had dogs all my life and have never had puppies with any of them. I couldn’t live with myself for worrying if they were going to decent homes and cost is no assurance that the buyer is a good owner.

Multiple holidays?

They must be jolly expensive kittens!

caknib

She will have covered all bases with tax. The RSPCA would see reasonable care being taken ( should they call)

The idea of forcing creatures to breed and selling their babies makes me feel sick.

You're vegan, I take it?

Some people seem to have managed to comment without a huge amount of information.
Always good to get a range of views.

Germanshepherdsmum

It’s a disgrace to use animals in this way to make money. There are so many unwanted cats - why do people buy them? I would be reporting her to the council for running a business from home, the RSPCA and HMRC.

Well, I don't know why anyone would want a cat anyway!

However, is this a specialist breed?
I doubt that breeding any common or garden cat would make much money when so many are available for a small charge from a rescue centre.

Perhaps they are really well cared for.

We simply don't know enough to comment.

She will have covered all bases with tax. The RSPCA would see reasonable care being taken ( should they call)

The idea of forcing creatures to breed and selling their babies makes me feel sick.

It’s a disgrace to use animals in this way to make money. There are so many unwanted cats - why do people buy them? I would be reporting her to the council for running a business from home, the RSPCA and HMRC.

A colleague reported someone to HMRC and the local council for breeding dogs....they were in a pretty awful condition.

Thankfully they did act...

Its grim,Miss A.

My daughter’s friend whom I have known for 25 years, breeds occasionally, she is dedicated owner and vets all potential buyers.
She spends a lot of time and money and of course stud fees, it is a very time consuming and expensive process.
Her current litter of black labs are £1500 each.
She will no doubt come out of it with a healthy profit but why not?
Those dogs will give many years of joy to their owners.