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Michael Shellenberger: WPATH - 'Possibly the worst medical scandal in history'

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Namsnanny Fri 08-Mar-24 22:26:24

youtu.be/nulk601lnA

If this link doesn't work (sorry!) it's all over the internet so should be easy to find.

All about the medical industry pushing the trans issue knowing the harm and lack of evidence on which it is built.

nanna8 Wed 20-Mar-24 22:13:33

Absolutely hit the nail on the head there, Doodledogand not just this issue,either. It seems to be increasing, this intolerance over many, many issues. And we condemn China …

Namsnanny Fri 22-Mar-24 16:53:12

Elegran

Namsnanny
"He {Bill Gates} has invested in pharmaceutical robotics. Robots which can operate with very little human aid. Robots which can perform key hole hysterectomy surgery."

"More and more young people are going to have mastectomy and hysterectomy surgeries in the future."

^ "it seems clear he thinks/has knowledge(?) that the industry is growing and going to be worth a lot of money, don't you think?"^

Is keyhole surgery used JUST for hysterectomies and mastectomies? What about other surgery? There are dozens of operations that can be done faster, be less invasive and more accurately, with fewer side effects and a shorter healing time than would cutting a large hole in the patient to get at something that is buried deep in their body, behind a major organ. The patient is less traumatised and can leave hospital sooner, leaving a bed for another patient.

The company that Bill Gates (among others) has invested in is developing a system that is more maneovrable than current keyhole systems. This could be an improvement in this type of surgery for all, including the surgeons who use it, not just trans patients.

You might as well object to Semmelweiss in 1847 introducing the revolutionary practice of doctors actually washing and disinfecting their hands before delivering babies, because it would encourage promiscuity if women were not terrified of dying of sepsis after childbirth.

(Your link worked fine for me when I copied it and pasted it into my browser. Maybe you should have put a blank space after the end of it to finish it off)
www.medtechdive.com/news/bill-gates-backed-vicarious-surgical-targets-intuitive-jj-medtronic/606122/

As promised a reply.

Thank you for trying out the link, it might be the first one of mine that has worked properly 🙂

Is key hole surgery JUST for....

The company BG is investing in....

The link to the article reported BG was interestrd in investing specifically in robots which specialise in womens abdominal surgery.

Whether or not there is a secondary use, somewhere down the line, doesn't apply here, I don't think.
Because the focus is on abdominal surgery

Semmelwiess ...

I'm not suggesting and neither I think is BG thinking, that performing more operations will encourage more people to elect to have these surgeries.
Which I presume you are suggesting would be the outcome? Or have I misunderstood your analogy?
Eg: Hand washing reduces the fear of sepsis, resulting in promiscuity.
Safer ops reduces the fear of undergoing a hysterectomy, resulting in more ops.

My point was, if any wealthy investor spotted a trend, and acted upon their understanding of the market by investing.
Then maybe we could infer that (the trend being transgender operations in this case) the so called trend had a long life of financial rewards in store.

My take is the WPATH files expose doesnt look as if it will slow down the mutilation of people.
Not while there is money to made.
One swallow does not a summer make

Conspiracies about BG dont particularly impact on me, but I do feel strongly about the ethics of investing in this ideology.

Namsnanny Sun 07-Apr-24 12:31:37

It's been 4 weeks and counting and the BBC has yet to publish an article about the shambles that is the Wpath.
At least I should say I havent combed their online news recently so perhaps there is a byline somewhere.
The point being why not?
If we can't get up to date news (which we clearly can't) how can we know we are understanding the problems of the world properly?
I presume some think only some children's welfare is important.