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Working the hours you are paid for or unpaid overtime?

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biglouis Sun 07-Apr-24 17:22:13

Have you ever been in a job where you were “expected” to work until the job was done, even if it involved going outside your contracted hours. Or did you just work the hours you were paid for, prioritise the most important tasks, and let the rest pile up or just slide?

Many years ago when I worked in local government we had contracted hours. I used to do quite a lot of extra work in my own time because I enjoyed it. For example reading up and doing research for exhibitions and displays. However there came a time when the structure of the profession changed.

I found that I and many of my colleagues were no longer valued because we had qualified under an earlier system and were not graduates. They had a bit of paper we didn’t have, so I made planned to go back into education, Applying to uni is a year long process because of research on courses, campus visits, interviews and so on. I received offers from all 5 unis on the UCAS form and was continually holding 2 offers until I made my final selection.

My final year in work I more or less coasted because I had nothing to lose. I had already said goodbye to the job. I don’t mean that I skived or wasted time and sat around drinking tea. I simply worked the hours I was paid for. No extras, no volunteering, no putting forward ideas or doing presentations or outreach activities. Of course my boss noticed that I had (as he put it) lost my mojo. But there was nothing he could do. They don’t sack you in local government for just working your hours.

When I resigned it was in a letter of one sentence. I did not tell my boss and he learned on the grapevine.

Coronation Sun 07-Apr-24 17:31:53

I work in the private sector and working overtime for free (no time off in lieu or pay) is normal.

Ilovecheese Sun 07-Apr-24 17:43:24

Management jobs in the private sector involve unpaid extra hours, but the salary will reflect this.
Factory floor jobs are not expected to work for no extra pay.

Desdemona Sun 07-Apr-24 17:46:58

Retail.

Grandmabatty Sun 07-Apr-24 18:01:19

I worked as a teacher. It went with the job. Most evenings and every weekend either preparing or, more often marking. I usually had a Higher English class so had to keep on top of it.

vickymeldrew Sun 07-Apr-24 18:01:27

Most of my working life was in branch banking. As this is essentially ‘retail’ no-one gets paid a fortune . Senior staff would work in head office , further from customers but much better pay.
In order to open a bank branch, there is around 45 minutes of work to be done, checking the building is secure and retrieving cash from the bank vaults and the reverse happens at the end of the day, including of course balancing the books. Staff were expected to come early and leave late without extra pay.
I have always worked in the private sector and have never had a job where you could just switch off and go home.

biglouis Sun 07-Apr-24 18:06:03

I have always worked in the private sector and have never had a job where you could just switch off and go home

Did you feel that the salary you were paid reflected that?

Jaxjacky Sun 07-Apr-24 18:08:38

I worked extra hours and outside of the ‘normal day’ both in the private and LG sector. Partly, as in the private sector job I worked across time zones, partly because it got the job done in both jobs. I was trusted to do the job and manage my time, I took time off when it was ok for the projects. I also travelled abroad extensively, involving weekends, I don’t have a degree either biglouis.
I enjoyed working flexibly, being trusted to deliver, communication was key.

Ilovecheese Sun 07-Apr-24 18:23:10

Working in Local Government, at the time, full time employees worked flexitime, 37 hours per week. Part time employees had fixed hours. The part time employees often stayed later than their contracted hours. The L A decided to experiment with part timers being given flexitime. This is when they realised how many more hours the part timers were working for no extra pay. They discontinued the experiment.

vickymeldrew Sun 07-Apr-24 18:49:39

Oh biglouis, absolutely not. Quite normal to be on minimum wage with benefit top-ups. It was classed as shop work and working longer hours without pay was the norm .

AskAlice Sun 07-Apr-24 18:59:34

Most of my working life from my late teens was spent working with politicians and believe me there were plenty of unpaid extra hours! And I wasn't one of those highly paid SPADS or advisers, before anyone asks!!

M0nica Sun 07-Apr-24 19:03:15

The nature of my work was that the job had to be done to a deadline and some times people needed urgent last minute information - and I needed to provide it.

It was not constantly happening, but i was not rare either. One year I worked until 7.00pm on Christmas Eve. Something was being couriered to Pakistan, so the fact that the following day was Christmas day was irrelevant.

Oldnproud Sun 07-Apr-24 19:06:32

I once took on a temporary Christmas job in a department store in the town centre.
The job description didn't point out that I would have to stay behind after closing time for as long as it took to cash up the tills etc. In reality, that meant that I might miss the bus home and have to hang around in the town centre for 75 minutes longer than I was officially paid for!

Gillycats Sun 07-Apr-24 19:07:05

Retail and care work. Lowest paid and least respected and appreciated sectors. I worked in both.

MissAdventure Sun 07-Apr-24 19:07:14

I always worked over my hours in care.
45 mins a day extra, up to 5 days a week at times, with one couple I supported.

Georgesgran Sun 07-Apr-24 19:41:30

DH worked in the private sector, so he would agree with Coronation. However, he never asked his colleagues to do anything he wouldn’t do, stayed behind with them and mucked in with the tasks and often treated the staff afterwards, privately sponsoring the ladies netball team for starters. I think they were fairly well paid and no-one seemed to object to seeing a job through. I received the most amazing tributes to him, from them after his death.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 07-Apr-24 19:57:39

When I worked in the public sector, there were set hours and flexitime. No wonder that some people, out of the door on the dot, built up big backlogs. In the private sector, the hours were those needed to do the job - evenings, weekends, holidays. I needed to keep my clients happy so I did what was necessary. I built up a very valuable client base. It’s what the job entailed, and still does. I ate what I killed.

NotSpaghetti Sun 07-Apr-24 20:02:54

I have worked extra hours a lot - especially in charity work. No extra pay.

I have opted OUT of Charity "It's a knockout" and local stalls at fairs and carnival floats etc. - I'm afraid spending all Saturday 7am to late on this type of activity was not what I was actually employed to do.

Report writing over a weekend and working on presentations into the evenings however seemed to be part of my job and if insufficient hours were available in the day, well that was my choice.

MissAdventure Sun 07-Apr-24 20:18:55

When I worked in the civil service, I was put the door and on the bus home, the second my 7 hours 24 minutes was finished.

Visgir1 Sun 07-Apr-24 20:54:10

I have worked all my Career in the NHS, every day I worked more than my set hours, that's not exaggerating.
I was at a grade where it was more or less expected as it didn't pay overtime rates.

Mogsmaw Sun 07-Apr-24 21:07:46

I’ve worked in several retail stores. One manager insisted we were in the store 15 minutes before our start time, not a problem, I would do that anyway, but she made sure she gave you something to do. I also had to report to her at the end of my shift, and she kept you waiting. I too missed the bus after an event and had to wait nearly an hour for the night bus. Home after midnight, back in at 07:45 for an 8 am start.
I worked out she got at least an extra 30mins, unpaid, per shift, five shifts a week.
I thought this was normal because it was.
My present employer is very clear, I start at my start time and finish on time, or I’m paid the extra. It’s a small change but it makes such a huge difference to my self esteem.

Mel1967 Sun 07-Apr-24 21:24:06

I have never worked over or above my 37.5 hours.
I’ve worked for the same employer for 35 years

Freya5 Sun 07-Apr-24 21:24:48

Working in the NHS, unpaid overtime was the norm. 6ou may have got time off for it, not often you got off shift on time, since the 80s it got worse. When I retired was owed 9 hours unpaid overtime. My manager refused to put it on my final sheet,saying "they won't pay you that". Loved my worked, hated the political crap and meaness that went with it.

JaneJudge Sun 07-Apr-24 21:26:56

I think everywhere, people who work hard will put more hours in, sometimes just for pride, recognition or because they felt a duty to do so.

I don’t think I’ve ever got paid for my overtime anywhere

PaperMonster Sun 07-Apr-24 21:56:00

I’ve worked in both the private sector and in Education. My jobs in the private sector I got overtime or toil. In education I got neither and worked a stupid amount of hours just to get the basic job done.