Botox and fillers

I wouldn’t be surprised.

Aveline

I'm not arguing I'm just very disappointed and feel differently about her. I'm human.

Gosh that’s so sad.
Be prepared for her to think quite differently of you as well

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

Summerlove I'm quite sure it's a two way thing. She must think I look a right sight but I'm happy to own my wrinkles - I had a lot of fun and achieved a lot while developing them.

A relative of a friend had a Botox injection this week for bladder problems.
It is used for several procedures other than numbing the face muscles.

All these disparaging remarks suggesting that you are of lesser intelligence because of these procedures are rubbish, it’s got nothing to do with your intelligence.

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

Her hair appears, to me, to have a lovely bayalage foil treatment. Adds lots of body and fullness to thin hair - I love it.

Aveline

Summerlove I'm quite sure it's a two way thing. She must think I look a right sight but I'm happy to own my wrinkles - I had a lot of fun and achieved a lot while developing them.

I was thinking more your attitude towards her. I doubt she thinks about if you have wrinkles at all.

Itd be quite a blow to find out your mother now thinks poorly of you for your choices

I doubt she'd be surprised. I expect that's why she kept quiet about it in the first place.
I'm well aware of the use of botulinum toxin for medical purposes and have seen it used in that context.

The odd thing is, that people use these fillers supposedly to enhance their appearance, but they seldom do. The 'trout pout' is not a good look and being unable to smile makes one resemble a puppet.

Aveline please do not think harshly of your daughter, it really is her choice.

In the big scheme of things is this worth risking your relationship with her? She is still the same person, just having some tweekments

You are allowed to respect your adult children's choices to do what they want with their own bodies, while at the same time, being disappointed with those choices. I'm with Aveline on this one.

MissInterpreted

I think we should just be encouraging our daughters and granddaughters to value themselves for who they are, not what they look like.

So agree.

Ho hum, 'society' seems to be uncomfortable with the ageing process; we are compelled to "look good for our age" and "hide those grey hairs" and "tell-tale" lines and wrinkles. And in order to be complicit we are encouraged to buy attractively-packaged pots of this and that 'daub' of very expensive potions which "hide the signs of ageing".

I understand that people want to look their best - but we cannot be eternally young.

Some of the treatments are subtle and the effect is 'gentle', but those taut faces - rictus faces - with huge trout-pouts, are most certainly not.

It’s obvious from the majority of posts here that you only comment on what you see from on the tv or the pics in the DM, when reality women asking to have lip fillers removed has been on the increase for some time.

inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/lip-fillers-removed-rising-number-women-explained-2075857

I rarely read the DM, which is, in my view misogynist, but do know friends and acquaintances who have had work done, but not lip fillers which appears to be losing popularity.

I agree with Dickens that society seems uncomfortable with the aging process, which means that lucrative businesses have sprung up to cater for our insecurities.Even dentists are glorified beauticians now.

Rather ironic really when huge chunks of the population are unable to afford even basic dentistry.

I rarely read the DM, which is, in my view misogynist

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I'm not sure how anyone can have a view on something they don't read.

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

I like to think I would not be disappointed or feel different about my daughter whatever her appearance.

Tbh, my view is that once ones children are adults it is entirely up to them whether they do or do not use beauty enhancers. My two grandaughters are lovely girls in their early 20's and neither uses anything except hair lightner and very light makeup. However if either they or my daughter chose to go further, while it might make me feel it's entirely unnecessary, even detrimental, bordering on weird, it certainly wouldn't alter my opinion of them! They'd still be the same lovely people, and as adults their beauty arrangements are simply not my business!

I’m thinking of 2 women I know who would be considered brain dead morons by some on this thread.
One has a senior position in her church. She has had several tweeks, some involving a scalpel.
Her friend ( a retired CEO) now a magistrate has had everything going.

hollysteers

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

No-one, not even a Queen, has a duty not to look old.

I don't think Charles is or has been a smoker, but he shows the ravages of time in his face. Should he not also undergo a few Botox, too, as he is also in the public eye (arguably more so than his wife)?

Both make the best of their appearance as older people. Why isn't that enough?

They both enjoy the outdoor life and that may have been what caused wrinkles. I would prefer to see an older person comfortable in their own skin, as they both seem to be, than looking unnatural through ‘work’.

Germanshepherdsmum

They both enjoy the outdoor life and that may have been what caused wrinkles. I would prefer to see an older person comfortable in their own skin, as they both seem to be, than looking unnatural through ‘work’.

Absolutely.

Dickens

hollysteers

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

No-one, not even a Queen, has a duty not to look old.

I don't think Charles is or has been a smoker, but he shows the ravages of time in his face. Should he not also undergo a few Botox, too, as he is also in the public eye (arguably more so than his wife)?

Both make the best of their appearance as older people. Why isn't that enough?

I actually think Charles looked better as he aged and grew into his face, not so Camilla. Obviously Charles is looking rather tired and pale at the moment through his treatment.

hollysteers

Dickens

hollysteers

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

No-one, not even a Queen, has a duty not to look old.

I don't think Charles is or has been a smoker, but he shows the ravages of time in his face. Should he not also undergo a few Botox, too, as he is also in the public eye (arguably more so than his wife)?

Both make the best of their appearance as older people. Why isn't that enough?

I actually think Charles looked better as he aged and grew into his face, not so Camilla. Obviously Charles is looking rather tired and pale at the moment through his treatment.

I don't agree.. I much prefer her natural and think that her humour, kindness and intelligence shines through and is much more attractive than false enhancements..

Having Botox at young age will prevent wrinkles forming later in life.
Must admit have had as many fillers as I can afford. Seems to work for me.