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Harry and Meghan ‘royal’ tour of Nigeria.

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Whethertomorrow Sun 28-Apr-24 22:44:36

No matter what the facts are this is going to be reported on as being an official royal tour. This tour will be fully publicised in the press and have a lot of coverage perhaps to the detriment of the rest of the royal family.

Comparisons could be made between ‘youthful’ and energetic H and M and the elderly ailing king and Catherine also ailing.

Surely this is a kick in the teeth to Charles and William. I think their titles need to be removed asap, as I don’t think that H and M will ever stop trading on the RF name that they no longer want to be associated with.

Iam64 Mon 29-Apr-24 18:35:18

Joseann, steady on there - not about the Monday wine I stress, you can do that if you wish, school day/holiday/being retired all conspire to allow the glass.
No, I meant more about Those/especially She who must be despised.
So far from criticising your holiday treat, I’m just noticing, you almost posted something entertaining and even possibly accurate without suggesting the need to bring out the guillotine .

Baggs Mon 29-Apr-24 18:40:43

Obviously others do not think as I do, that Gransnet had a kind of voluntary moratorium on starting threads about the Princess of Wales at the moment while she is receiving treatment.

I wasn't aware of this. How would one be unless there was a very obvious announcement? Who decided this and why weren't the rest of us (in our thousands) told?

Also, why would there be? The fact someone is ailing doesn't mean they can't be mentioned.

The GN rules of engagement are set by HQ, not by posters.

Baggs Mon 29-Apr-24 18:41:32

Also, this thread wasn't started about the Princess of Wales.

High horse-ism-tastic!

Baggs Mon 29-Apr-24 18:43:58

Sorry, maddyone. Just seen your comment 🙃🙂

Iam64 Mon 29-Apr-24 18:50:27

The DM on line has Meghan’s family tree from both her parents. Very interesting

maddyone Mon 29-Apr-24 18:51:31

Well that’s what I thought, for what it’s worth which isn’t much Baggs, I thought this thread was about H&M who are apparently going to Nigeria. It was all news to me to be honest, but there it is.

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Apr-24 19:35:16

Baggs

*Obviously others do not think as I do, that Gransnet had a kind of voluntary moratorium on starting threads about the Princess of Wales at the moment while she is receiving treatment.*

I wasn't aware of this. How would one be unless there was a very obvious announcement? Who decided this and why weren't the rest of us (in our thousands) told?

Also, why would there be? The fact someone is ailing doesn't mean they can't be mentioned.

The GN rules of engagement are set by HQ, not by posters.

I did say kind of voluntary, which seemed to be the case and most posters seemed to have decided to resist intruding on the privacy of the Princess of Wales out of a sense of decency.

Who said rules ?
Only you.

I realise not all will agree of course.

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Apr-24 19:36:06

Baggs

Also, this thread wasn't started about the Princess of Wales.

High horse-ism-tastic!

Oh give it a rest, do.

M0nica Mon 29-Apr-24 20:23:13

Whethertomorrow

I used ailing to describe Charles and Catherine as in meaning not in good health. My husband battled stage 4 colon cancer for 7 years and I saw the horrendous side effects he suffered whilst enduring chemotherapy. He lost his balance easily from neuropathy and he lost feelings in his fingers and burning when they were cold. He got constant mouth ulcers and rashes. I was thinking that if they were going through half of what my husband did then they would not be feeling fully fit and well. Hence my use of the word ailing which I take to mean ‘not well’. I did not think it meant dying or at deaths door. I meant no insult or disrespect to either Catherine or Charles.

My point in making this post was to wonder if M and H were trying to set up an alternate royal court with visits overseas and what people’s views were. Just something to chat about.

I wanted different perspectives on it but the level of vitriol is horrible. I won’t post again as the distress the attacks on my post have had me in tears.

I think ailing has many meanings, all mean ill, but to me it means people having a succession of little ills, of the kind that can make many older people's lives very difficult.

Personally I think the idea that H&M are trying to set up any kind of rival court is far fetched. I suspect that that was their intention when they headed away to the USA permanently, but they wanted this rival court to be in Hollywood where they would mix on an equal level with all the great Show business personalities and be feted by the people who meant most to the Duchess.

They got off to a good start, but now their power is waning, they did the Oprah interview and Harry wrote his book, both of which antagonised many people and for all the great contracts they signed the first year with Netflix etc, they have signally failed to deliver and the contracts are all being scaled down and renegotiated..

I do not think the tour will be fully covered by the press. Press coverage is based on how much interest readers have in a subject. There is no point in the media going to great expense chasing these two around Nigeria, when interest back home, and I do not just mean the UK, is at best tepid and at times hostile. These two are a busted flush, like the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, they commanded the press for 5 or 6 years and then slipped into a well-deserved press back water. Leading aimless and pointless lives, always prepared to turn up for the opening of an envelope (if someone will pay them)

Norah Mon 29-Apr-24 20:33:31

Joseann

maddyone

I don’t think there have been any threads started about the Princess of Wales. This thread is about H&M.

I'm not sure whether the thread was meant to invite comparisons or not? What do I know?
But it's worth referring to it for a bit of nitpicking while I slurp my Monday wine, (which is allowed on holiday).

I don't think I've ever considered Meghan as "youthful or energetic" in the physical sense. OK, so she walks her dog and does a bit of yoga, (so do I), but I've never seen her join in rugby, race a boat, play hockey, abseil a cliff or try her hand at archery. Despite her friendship with Serena Williams, I don't think Meghan actually plays tennis, does she? So no one, royal or not, has anything to fear that Meghan on tour might make them look lethargic or feeble. Even all the announcements about her various business projects never seem to come to very much. There's a lot of flitting about.

As for Harry "kicking his brother in the teeth" over a random visit to Africa, I'll wait for the day he shows the stamina and intelligence to stick steadfastly at one job before I worry for William.

So from me, it's a no that the tour will be "to the detriment of the rest of the family".
🍷

Indeed.

Well done you. That I could write so well... wine wine wine

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Apr-24 22:29:44

Norah

Joseann

maddyone

I don’t think there have been any threads started about the Princess of Wales. This thread is about H&M.

I'm not sure whether the thread was meant to invite comparisons or not? What do I know?
But it's worth referring to it for a bit of nitpicking while I slurp my Monday wine, (which is allowed on holiday).

I don't think I've ever considered Meghan as "youthful or energetic" in the physical sense. OK, so she walks her dog and does a bit of yoga, (so do I), but I've never seen her join in rugby, race a boat, play hockey, abseil a cliff or try her hand at archery. Despite her friendship with Serena Williams, I don't think Meghan actually plays tennis, does she? So no one, royal or not, has anything to fear that Meghan on tour might make them look lethargic or feeble. Even all the announcements about her various business projects never seem to come to very much. There's a lot of flitting about.

As for Harry "kicking his brother in the teeth" over a random visit to Africa, I'll wait for the day he shows the stamina and intelligence to stick steadfastly at one job before I worry for William.

So from me, it's a no that the tour will be "to the detriment of the rest of the family".
🍷

Indeed.

Well done you. That I could write so well... wine wine wine

And well said from me, too.

It's just a storm being stirred up in a teacup.

Katie59 Tue 30-Apr-24 07:32:25

I wouldn’t think William is bothered at all about Harry visiting Nigeria, after the controversial visit to Jamaica last year, William would be relieved not to endure the joys of Nigeria.

Catherine learned not to edit photos, recently a photo of Prince Louis taken by herself was published and was received without any adverse comment.

Astitchintime Tue 30-Apr-24 07:39:02

Well, as they stepped down from being 'working royals' and scuttled off to the US for a new life surely the visit to Nigeria cannot be classed as a Royal Tour, can it?
I know I won't be watching any news bulletins or documentaries that follow on from it.

Sparklefizz Tue 30-Apr-24 08:54:33

They have to create some content for Netflix.

Katie59 Tue 30-Apr-24 09:01:18

Sparklefizz

They have to create some content for Netflix.

They are likely planning Meghan at home in Nigeria but I won’t be watching

Anniebach Tue 30-Apr-24 09:12:08

The visit to Jamaica! I felt sorry for her turning up for the film
premier wear a dress with a huge full length skirt and being
placed in the 4th row

Greendress Tue 30-Apr-24 09:33:03

I wonder who is paying for their security. Nigeria isn't the safest country in the World.

merlotgran Tue 30-Apr-24 09:40:43

I wonder how this trip will compare to their visit to South Africa. Will Meghan have learned not to make everything about her?

If she’s exploring her roots I also wonder if she has read The Girl With The Louding Voice by Abi Daré?

Anniebach Tue 30-Apr-24 12:12:30

Will she repeat ‘I am here today as a wife, mother, sister,
woman of colour ‘ or ‘not many asked if I was ok’

Katie59 Tue 30-Apr-24 12:37:47

Greendress

I wonder who is paying for their security. Nigeria isn't the safest country in the World.

I doubt anyone would be brave enough to kidnap her.

merlotgran Tue 30-Apr-24 13:00:27

I doubt anyone would be brave enough to kidnap her.

😂😂😂

Dickens Tue 30-Apr-24 16:17:15

Whethertomorrow

No matter what the facts are this is going to be reported on as being an official royal tour. This tour will be fully publicised in the press and have a lot of coverage perhaps to the detriment of the rest of the royal family.

Comparisons could be made between ‘youthful’ and energetic H and M and the elderly ailing king and Catherine also ailing.

Surely this is a kick in the teeth to Charles and William. I think their titles need to be removed asap, as I don’t think that H and M will ever stop trading on the RF name that they no longer want to be associated with.

No matter what the facts are this is going to be reported on as being an official royal tour.

Harry is not a working royal, so if the trip to Nigeria is reported as an official royal tour, then the media reporting it as such will be in the wrong won't they.

Comparisons could be made between ‘youthful’ and energetic H and M and the elderly ailing king and Catherine also ailing.

Well such comparisons could be, but it would have to be a very spiteful media or individual making them. In fact, I'm puzzled at your thought process - it never occurred to me that anyone would even think along those lines. Or do you think H&M are doing this for that reason?

fancythat Tue 30-Apr-24 16:23:33

I cant see why it would be reported as a Royal Tour as it isnt.
Could be proved wrong.

fancythat Tue 30-Apr-24 16:24:10

I dont get the comparisons bit either.

fancythat Tue 30-Apr-24 16:29:31

LovesBach

fancythat

M0nica

I thought the recent health problems of the Royal family had led to an increase of concern and respect for them.

Why should 2 minor royals trundling around a country, even one that has ancestral links with one of them, attract a lot of press coverage in this country? They have received much more muted coverage recently. I think the press are as bored with them as most people in this country are.

What other countries may do is irrelevant.

We shall see.

Unfortunately, I think it will be widely publicised.
And if it isnt, there will be an "incident" to make it so.

What do you think this might be? Perhaps a Nigerian version of the 'terrifying car chase' seemingly undertaken in the rush hour in New York. Perhaps a revelation of the other 57% of Meghan's make up will prompt another tour. Isn't it all so tedious?

An incident such as, her heel "breaks off" as she goes onto the stage.
Or a necklace breaks loose or something.
Anything minor or bigger, to make headlines. Or clickbait as someone called it.
It wont take much.