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Prince Harry will not meet the King during UK visit.

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Urmstongran Tue 07-May-24 14:16:27

Seems a bit harsh? All that way too. He landed in the UK a few hours ago. Without Meghan and the children.

From the Telegraph just now:

“ The Duke of Sussex will not meet the King this week, the Telegraph can reveal.

Prince Harry, 39, landed in London on Tuesday morning and had made no secret of his hopes to see his father during his visit.

But a spokesperson for the Duke said: “In response to the many inquiries and continued speculation on whether or not The Duke will meet with his father while in the UK this week, it unfortunately will not be possible due to His Majesty’s full programme.

“The Duke of course is understanding of his father’s diary of commitments and various other priorities and hopes to see him soon.”

I just think if the King doesn't ’find time’ to see his son then Harry might well just think ‘sod it’ next time/if he comes over.

I know Harry bad mouthed the family in his book ‘Spare’ but still …

What do you think?

Joseann Wed 08-May-24 21:46:08

PuddyCat

^Speaking in the church where his parents were married, Prince Harry gave a Bible reading from Isaiah which talked of stopping “the pointing of the finger, the speaking of evil”.^

Mr Markle has absolutely no self awareness. Having spent 5 years pointing his finger at his father, his brother, his step mother, his sister in law and various unnamed relatives, to anyone who would listen but he's now standing up in a church preaching about the perils of it. As for speaking of evil... he just needs to stand in front of a mirror with Mrs Markle. His hypocrisy and lack of self awareness is breathtaking. I'm glad that none of his relatives, apart from an aunt and uncle, bothered to go and support him. He's reaping what he's sown.

I don't understand how Harry is pointing the finger at other family members because they have been the epitome of discretion. None of them has publicly spoken evil of him or his wife, none of them has caused harm or torn the family apart. Perhaps he is admitting his own disrespectful behaviour and hopes that God will hear him and lead him?
I wasn't there, however, to hear the reading in context, so who knows how to interpret this?

Joseann Wed 08-May-24 22:00:58

Slandering someone's name causes upset and stress. Harry has questioned Charles' character and criticised his brother, SiL and step mother. Doing so, he actually sullies his own reputation. Surely by now he has realised the error of these ways?
I also agree with Dickens that the time has come to stop blaming Harry's wife for everything ....... (and I used to be one of the first to find fault with her) .... because yes, life is fragile and can be smashed in the blink of an eye.

PuddyCat Wed 08-May-24 22:44:02

I wasn't there, however, to hear the reading in context, so who knows how to interpret this?

Harry spoke from Isaiah 58:9 which reads Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity.

That passage had so much relevance to Harry it could have been written with him in mind! grin

silverlining48 Wed 08-May-24 23:02:04

Didn’t Charles criticise his parents and go on tv to talk about his affair. Did he write a book too? Not sure but just saying …..

I have some sympathy for Harry both as a child as his parents marriage broke up so publicly, the constant rumours about who his father was and the sudden shocking death of his mother must have been very hard fir a young boy.

Anniebach Wed 08-May-24 23:13:46

No, Charles didn’t write a book. The only reference to his relationship with Camilla was to say the affair started after his
marriage had broken down.

Dickens Wed 08-May-24 23:52:56

silverlining48

Didn’t Charles criticise his parents and go on tv to talk about his affair. Did he write a book too? Not sure but just saying …..

No!

He authorised a biography on himself by Jonathan Dimbleby. In it, the Queen and Philip were described as emotionally distant.

Though he did seem to form a closer bond with his mother in later years - if you look at the way he has referenced her, in speeches, etc.

Mollygo Thu 09-May-24 01:57:35

I wonder why didn’t Harry work on the press to make it all about the Invictus Games - the reason for his visit.

Sarnia Thu 09-May-24 02:05:05

Joseann

PuddyCat

Speaking in the church where his parents were married, Prince Harry gave a Bible reading from Isaiah which talked of stopping “the pointing of the finger, the speaking of evil”.

Mr Markle has absolutely no self awareness. Having spent 5 years pointing his finger at his father, his brother, his step mother, his sister in law and various unnamed relatives, to anyone who would listen but he's now standing up in a church preaching about the perils of it. As for speaking of evil... he just needs to stand in front of a mirror with Mrs Markle. His hypocrisy and lack of self awareness is breathtaking. I'm glad that none of his relatives, apart from an aunt and uncle, bothered to go and support him. He's reaping what he's sown.

I don't understand how Harry is pointing the finger at other family members because they have been the epitome of discretion. None of them has publicly spoken evil of him or his wife, none of them has caused harm or torn the family apart. Perhaps he is admitting his own disrespectful behaviour and hopes that God will hear him and lead him?
I wasn't there, however, to hear the reading in context, so who knows how to interpret this?

Harry has been very cruel with his remarks about Queen Camilla and she has maintained a dignified silence but it must have upset both her and the King. Harry should keep his nasty opinions to himself.

eazybee Thu 09-May-24 06:59:40

Mollygo, you are absolutely right. I have just read a sycophantic piece in the Daily Telegraph which is all about family tensions; very little about the purpose of Invictus Games.

Sparklefizz Thu 09-May-24 08:06:52

eazybee

*Mollygo*, you are absolutely right. I have just read a sycophantic piece in the Daily Telegraph which is all about family tensions; very little about the purpose of Invictus Games.

No wonder that apparently 2,000 servicemen/women have now rejected the Invictus Games.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 09-May-24 08:36:44

He is leaving London today, storm in a teacup ☕️

Joseann Thu 09-May-24 08:38:39

That's a shame. He's missing London in the beautiful sunshine! 🌞

Anniebach Thu 09-May-24 08:39:49

Harry has made it all about himself again. His announcement
that his father was too busy ! so wrong.

NotSpaghetti Thu 09-May-24 08:44:24

keepingquiet - many ordinary people changed names to sound less German.

Four in my family and two in my husband's for example - and none of them were actually German - please don't criticise people for trying to make like less complicated for themselves.

NotSpaghetti Thu 09-May-24 08:45:46

I don't think changing your name makes uou fake!

lemsip Thu 09-May-24 08:54:26

there will be another book when the King has gone. Any meeting would be in it!........ The King is being 'protected' from his son!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 09-May-24 09:08:51

You think he will wait until Charles has died? I doubt it.

eazybee Thu 09-May-24 09:11:14

Just shows! I thought H was here for a series of events connected with the Invictus Games, but all the coverage I have read has focused on his non-meeting with the King, and a mention of his Reading at the Service And he is going home today so he is the one who can't spare the time to see his father. What a waste of space.

Anniebach Thu 09-May-24 09:14:47

The King should have cancelled the garden party, tough on
those been invited, charity workers etc

Dickens Thu 09-May-24 09:35:16

Mollygo

I wonder why didn’t Harry work on the press to make it all about the Invictus Games - the reason for his visit.

... would be preferable Mollygo but I believe the media manipulates Harry - as much as Harry attempts to manipulate the media.

Drama, controversy, and bad-news sells newspapers. Worthy causes, not so much.

The only way any high-profile individual can avoid the headlines is to maintain a low-profile.

I was always impressed with the way Princess Diana's "soulmate", Hasnat Khan, the British-Pakistani heart and lung surgeon, kept a low-profile after her death, refusing to give interviews for the media about their relationship. Which didn't stop them from hovering around snapping photo's of him. But even he capitulated ultimately I believe breaking his 25 year's silence - but not with a 'tell-all' book...

nadateturbe Thu 09-May-24 09:36:06

I agree with you Urmstongran.
I feel sorry for Harry. He needs understanding and love.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-May-24 09:40:04

Mollygo

I wonder why didn’t Harry work on the press to make it all about the Invictus Games - the reason for his visit.

👏👏👏

As usual, it has ended up all about Harry which is sad because the Invictus Games is such a worthy project.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-May-24 09:41:34

nadateturbe

I agree with you Urmstongran.
I feel sorry for Harry. He needs understanding and love.

He does, but he's 39 now, not 12 or 15 and he's a married man with a family.

Dickens Thu 09-May-24 09:48:15

Callistemon21

Mollygo

I wonder why didn’t Harry work on the press to make it all about the Invictus Games - the reason for his visit.

👏👏👏

As usual, it has ended up all about Harry which is sad because the Invictus Games is such a worthy project.

As usual, it has ended up all about Harry which is sad because the Invictus Games is such a worthy project.

Do you not think that the media is, in part at least, responsible for this?

... in that making it all about Harry will attract far more attention from readers than making it about the Games?

Callistemon21 Thu 09-May-24 09:52:31

He hasn't learnt that the best policy is 🤐