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Another assassination attempt on Trump

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25Avalon Sun 15-Sept-24 22:35:47

Breaking news all over the telly.

Wyllow3 Tue 17-Sept-24 19:30:41

By that I mean, he did not fire, so it comes down to intention?

VioletSky Tue 17-Sept-24 19:37:19

What I will never understand is why a convicted felon can lose the right to vite in the US but a convicted felon can still run for president?

Deedaa Tue 17-Sept-24 20:39:53

Unfortunately the last thing we want is Trump assassinated. Trump as President is bad enough, Trump as a martyr would just be horrific.

Wyllow3 Tue 17-Sept-24 20:41:35

VioletSky

What I will never understand is why a convicted felon can lose the right to vite in the US but a convicted felon can still run for president?

Well, exactly.

mh1953 Wed 18-Sept-24 05:44:37

We are noticing how the spreading of hate speach, especially by the media, is ramping up the not so stable factors in society. Wish the media would stop or at least try to appear unbiased and just report facts. That's a thing of the past, every broadcast is an editorial. I have a question, how can you hate so strongly and so gleefully talk trash about someone you don't know personally and probably never met?

mh1953 Wed 18-Sept-24 05:48:13

Did you meet Trump in person? Did he tell you stuff about woment or were you standing close enough for your ears to hear him? Do tell.

LaCrepescule Wed 18-Sept-24 05:53:58

His supporters are so deluded that I fear this may increase his popularity…But he’s also reviled enough to have had two assassination attempts. Harris is a beacon of hope and doing a great job and I just hope America makes the right choice in November.

Aveline Wed 18-Sept-24 10:07:35

mhl1953 obviously you're a Trump fan. This is inexplicable to most of us here who have actually listened to the nonsense he spouts.

M0nica Wed 18-Sept-24 11:19:23

mh1953

We are noticing how the spreading of hate speach, especially by the media, is ramping up the not so stable factors in society. Wish the media would stop or at least try to appear unbiased and just report facts. That's a thing of the past, every broadcast is an editorial. I have a question, how can you hate so strongly and so gleefully talk trash about someone you don't know personally and probably never met?

Which raises the question mh1953 How well do you know Donald Trump, and where do you get your information from?

We might ask how close you have been to him and have you been able to listen to him with your ears (what else would you use?)

This side of the pond we have been able to watch broadcasts of Donald Trump speaking at his rallies and, indeed hear him with our ears.

Having heard him with our ears, he talks nonsense. He appears to me to be an elderly man who is showing signs of cognitive failure.

People love waving the word 'hate' around. To be very worried that one of the potentially electable candidates for the leadership of one of the most powerful (still) countries in the world, has cognitive problems that can only get worse, has got nothing to do with 'hate' and a lot to do with fear of what damage having such a man with such power and so little self-knowledge in charge of the USA could be wreaked on the rest of the world, who have no say in his election.

Grantanow Wed 18-Sept-24 11:39:21

It's good Trump was not killed. I shudder to think what kind of riots might happen in the US if he were to be assassinated.

M0nica Wed 18-Sept-24 12:35:07

mh1953 I understand that he has just said, that the nuclear weapons is the biggest problem facing the car industry. I am sure you know the rationale behind this statement and could share it with us

You can hearwith your ears exactly what he said here: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-town-hall-harris-updates-b2614524.html

nanna8 Wed 18-Sept-24 12:44:58

Until quite recently I actually thought Trump was good for America . Not for the rest of the world, I never thought that. Now, however, he seems to be coming out with some irrational and just plain weird comments so I have changed my mind and now think he could be dangerous. I have never liked his stance on weapons but I can see why, from a historic angle, he supports ownership. The trouble is these days the guns are a lot more lethal than they were when America broke from Britain. He seems to be living in that old Wild West pioneer world.

MissInterpreted Wed 18-Sept-24 12:45:36

mh1953

Did you meet Trump in person? Did he tell you stuff about woment or were you standing close enough for your ears to hear him? Do tell.

We have heard him often enough in news reports. You do not have to know the man personally to hear much of the nonsense and hatred he spreads.

VioletSky Wed 18-Sept-24 13:16:37

mh1953

Did you meet Trump in person? Did he tell you stuff about woment or were you standing close enough for your ears to hear him? Do tell.

I only have to look at a spade to I know it is a spade

Norah Wed 18-Sept-24 14:30:48

mh1953

It amazes me that Donald Trump, with a PROVEN 4 year record of improving the economy, keeping the border safe, the world at peace, can get such cynical, ugly comments and accusations, and most of you aren't even Americans! Let's see some proof of your comments and theories, do your own research without using sponsored websites. Hating anyone without proof because of heresay and rumors only makes us the one with the problem.

I suspect his PROVEN record is a matter to debate.

One could read many reports and suss out various different views.

Times change. COVID, the Ukraine, efforts to reverse past laws - all play into how economy appears one administration to the next.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xl5vnlzpwo

M0nica Wed 18-Sept-24 14:49:12

mh1953. I haave given you one source. Trump in his own words. We are waiting for you to give us the plain unadulterated unedited fully sourced information that proves that Trump has a PROVEN record on world peace immigration etc etc.

So far all that has happened is that you have expressed your views without any evidence to back them up.

Here are two more: On Trump the peace maker responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/01/20/trump-the-anti-war-president-was-always-a-myth/

On reducing immigration www.factcheck.org/2024/04/trumps-misleading-chart-on-illegal-immigration/

If you disagree refute them with fact checked info to the ocntrary.

I doubt you will because you can't. So far everything you have said is splutter without any external sources to support what you say. Here is your chance. Prove us wrong with copper bottomed reputab;e sources.

Namsnanny Wed 18-Sept-24 14:49:37

I only have to look at a spade to know it is a spade......

Does this method work when judging who is a man or a woman in your estimation?

What is true of one should hold true of the other, shouldnt it?
Or the methology has to be rethought surely?

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Sept-24 15:02:51

I think its a bit offensive to assume that UK news-followers are incapable

- after 8 plus years of watching and listening -

of following direct evidence from Trump from speeches, debates, endless twitter feeds, intelligent reading of respected news sources from different POV,

fact checks with reliable stats

to make our minds up on the character and suitability of Trump for POTUS, and express them here. And dole out a certain amount of sceptical humour,

and great concern about the way he shapes divisiveness and hate himself. As his great pal Bannon shouted, pumping his fist "death or victory"!

Namsnanny Wed 18-Sept-24 15:13:24

Is this worth a ponder?Ryan Wesley Routh and Thomas Crooks, both appeared in different BlackRock ads.

It's all turning into a John le Carre' plot line 🤔😄

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Sept-24 15:29:04

Its been refuted as one of thousands of viral rumours that bear no relationship to a reasonable discussion of the issues.

Namsnanny Wed 18-Sept-24 15:51:56

Interesting, by whom?

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Sept-24 16:00:20

Go google.

M0nica Wed 18-Sept-24 17:19:14

Namsnanny

Is this worth a ponder?Ryan Wesley Routh and Thomas Crooks, both appeared in different BlackRock ads.

It's all turning into a John le Carre' plot line 🤔😄

This is not accurate, the latest potential assassin has not appeared in any BlackRock advert although the forst one had
www.10news.com/news/fact-or-fiction/fact-or-fiction-both-attempted-assassins-in-blackrock-ads

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Sept-24 18:44:39

I'm waiting with some interest to see what they actually charge Routh with beyond the gun charges. Since he didn't actually fire.
Whether he is deemed fit to charge?

Despite speculation and accusations both Crooks and Routh were quite disturbed "lone wolves".

Cavery Wed 18-Sept-24 20:19:07

Well, I live in the United States and I pray that he does. It doesn't matter if he's liked or not, American citizens were alot safer with him. I used to work in Los Angeles and it's just sickening what has become of it and other cities because present administration allowed invasion.