It has been around for a long time with regard to property matters, hasn't it?
I'm sure I read years ago that mortgages and such can be dealt with by shariah law.
Found out today, can't take it in
Well, that was a farce.........
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Are you worried for the future of GB and indeed the world?
(110 Posts)Born in 1947, benefitted from the NHS and grammar schools.
Throughout my school years everyone seemed to come from similar backgrounds - middle class I suppose. I and my siblings had an enjoyable time - we were able to roam freely and without fear. There was little mention of strange danger; just don't take lifts or sweets from strangers. If we went out for an adventure we were told to be back by a certain time and we were.
I moved to London in 1966 when it was easy to find a flat to rent, grim as they were. It was also easy to move from job to job. Womens' Lib came into being and life was pretty good for me and my friends and acquaintances.
I didn't want to go to Uni, despite the protestations of my Dad who worked at UCL. I just wanted to earn my own money and have a good time. Both of which I did.
I met my future DH when I was 21 and together we went to many music events. I had started when I was at school, seeing Bob Dylan at the Albert Hall and the Tamla Motown Road Show amongst many. In fact it's easier for me to say whom I did not see rather than list those that I did.
There were dozens of venues, often attached to a pub where entry was often free but the price of drinks was higher.
We did not buy a house until we were 32 and that was only because my GM had died and I borrowed 1/2 the deposit from my Dad. The other 1/2 came from my tax savings (I was self employed at that time). Yet young people (sometimes in their early 20s) today bemoan the fact that they cannot buy a house.
By choice we are child free. Had we had children neither of us could have worked as we did. My DH was self employed from the age of 21 and I had a mixture of employment an SE. I was not particularly ambitious and only changed job when I go bored. That was until we moved to Suffolk and my job moved to Milton Keynes.
I am content with my life. We have a nice house with lots of art works which have been acquired during many years of jumble sales and car boots. We are not rich and don't have good pensions which is why I continue to work. Luckily I enjoy and have had some of my clients for more than 40 years.
Every now and then I wonder what the grown up children of our friends think about the current situation in the world, especially because most of them have children of their own.
There are wars everywhere it seems - Ukraine, Middle East and threats from Russia and China and atrocities on all continents.
The mass of people are discontented and who can blame them? Their discontent has brought about the rise of the extreme right the world over. There are atrocities everywhere. The MRC Militia, with the aid of thousands of soldiers from Rwanda are raping women and executing young children. Mass graves have been found in Syria. The list goes on.
We mustn't forget global warming and the destruction of the rain forests.
So my question is, what do you think will happen in the future and does it worry you for your children and, more importantly perhaps, for your grandchildren?
Well that’s a very depressing start to my day, and Christmas 😐
MissAdventure
It has been around for a long time with regard to property matters, hasn't it?
I'm sure I read years ago that mortgages and such can be dealt with by shariah law.
Home Purchase Plans are available to anyone of course.
The HSBC offers them.
Oreo
I think Monica is right really, there’s always been wars and worry, but years ago without all the modern tech, people were either not aware of much going on in the world or dismissed it as not affecting them.There were also murders and rapes and stranger danger was just as relevant then as now.Abuse within families went on then just as now.
I suppose what’s really changed is the better standard of living and what we expect.Too much mass immigration has affected housing and the NHS so lack of housing both to rent and for sale and lack of medical appointments is down to the population explosion.It adds to the pressure on councils and all they normally do, so broken pavements, potholes and social care are affected.
It's not the mass immigration, less than 4% of the population are immigrants. It's the lack of investment from the government. The austerity from the Tories was never going to work, you need to invest in the economy - speculate to accumulate. Now it seems Labour are doing much the same. After WW2 the Labour government invested heavily into a better country with the creation of the welfare state and building council houses. It made the economy stronger not weaker! So stop blaming immigration and educate yourself.
After WW2 the Labour government invested heavily into a better country with the creation of the welfare state and building council houses. It made the economy stronger not weaker! So stop blaming immigration and educate yourself.
No it didn't. After the war the USA introduced a scheme known as Marshall Aid, which was loans and grants to war devastated European countries, including Britain, to rebuild their industries and revive their economies, which is what countries like Germany, France, Italy etc did.
In this country the Labour government chose to use thaat money to fund the start up of the NHS. To them it seemed the best investment at the time, but the result was that in the 1950s and 60s, British industry started its slide into oblivion and our productivity compared with other countries got poorer and poorer - and still remains so.
This was because other European countries used the Marshall Aid to build new factories with modern equipment, which meant reduced costs of production and high productivity while out manufacturers were lumbered with old outdated factories and equipment and labour practices that belonged in the 19th century.
Much of the new public sector housing, especially in cities was badly built, had problems from new and are now forming our current slums until such time as they can be demolished.
Labour can be proud of the NHS, but it was the Conservatives that brought in the Education Act. I do agree that we should not blame immigration for anything, since the amjority of immigrants are here quite legally as the result of government(all parties) manpower planning decisions to buy in skilled people from abroad rather than invest in training our own skilled people.
love0c
Anyone saying Sharia Law is not happening in this country is wrong. I am not saying it happens in 'full' but it does indeed exist. I worked for a housing association many years ago and in the area I worked it did exist. We housed people in areas to get away from Sharia being used on them.
I'd be interested to know more details on that please.
Were the people concerned British or Middle Eastern people with British passports? What sort of things were happening?
Cariad Not able to divulge anymore.
love0c you say you experienced Sharia Law in operation “many years ago” in your area. So how much worse has it become since overall in the UK? Or are you talking about a pocket? It’s not apparent to me.
www.indiatoday.in/world/uk-news/story/sharia-court-uk-western-capital-islamic-council-rulings-divorce-marriage-national-secular-society-objection-2652954-2024-12-23
Here you are Cariadagain. However it is important to remember this law is only applied within muslim communities and does not affect people who do nto consent to it (except women in some circumstances
While we refer to Sharia 'law' it actually has no legal status in the UK or in UK courts and it would be impossible for someone to use the application of Sharia law as a justification for decisions that run counter to UK law.
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