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To Have Or Not To Have Children

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Indigo8 Tue 11-Mar-25 15:43:10

I gather that a growing number of people are deciding not to have children. The usual reason they give is that the world has become such an awful place, in a number of different ways, that they are not willing to bring children into it.

Others said that they simply could not afford to bring up children without hardship.

One woman claimed said that she was fed up with having to give lots of reasons and that simply not wanting them should be good enough.

Several GNs have mentioned this topic on other threads and I would be interested to read people's views.

AGAA4 Tue 11-Mar-25 15:50:19

The choice to have or not have children is for the parents only. It has nothing to do with anyone else and they shouldn't have to give reasons.

Smileless2012 Tue 11-Mar-25 15:50:33

I'm in total agreement with the woman who said she's fed up having to give reasons for her decision.

Barleyfields Tue 11-Mar-25 16:21:01

It’s a personal decision but I always wonder how many have decided not to have children and then regretted their decision when it’s too late.

Allsorts Tue 11-Mar-25 16:26:34

I know childless couples who are very happy with their decision not to have had children. If you are both in agreement
its up to you, Every child should be a wanted one. Its no one else's business.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 11-Mar-25 16:26:49

Our eldest daughter and her husband made a decision not to.
She’s not far off 50 now.
No regrets.

Lathyrus3 Tue 11-Mar-25 16:27:56

Better to regret not having had children later than to regret having had them now?

Judy54 Tue 11-Mar-25 16:38:39

Nobody has to give a reason why they had children so those that choose not to have them should be afforded the same courtesy.

fancythat Tue 11-Mar-25 16:41:42

Of the ones I know -
Some feel they dont have time
Some feel they would rather prioritise a house
Some feel there are enough kids around already

Or a combination of the above.

HeavenLeigh Tue 11-Mar-25 16:44:30

Nobody’s business I certainly wouldn’t feel the need to explain if I hadn’t of wanted children

Judy54 Tue 11-Mar-25 16:47:17

Well fancythat how about some Women do not have a Maternal instinct, rare I know but definitely a good enough reason not to have them. Simply not wanting to have Children is a good enough reason, no explanations necessary.

Sago Tue 11-Mar-25 16:49:58

I’m more concerned for all the parents that give it almost zero consideration and keep popping them out.

fancythat Tue 11-Mar-25 16:50:50

I agree Judy54.
A person I used to work with, decades ago, didnt want them.
Her choice.
She used to bring it up from time to time. I used to think she didnt need to. We all understood. It wasnt a big deal.

grandMattie Tue 11-Mar-25 16:57:02

I admire people who decide they won’t have children, for whatever reason. Children should be wanted. How many are not and have a miserable life?

I wanted children more than anything in the world.

ViceVersa Tue 11-Mar-25 17:00:43

AGAA4

The choice to have or not have children is for the parents only. It has nothing to do with anyone else and they shouldn't have to give reasons.

Absolutely. No-one should have to justify their reasons to anyone. My daughter's always been adamant that she didn't want to have children, and very open about it. Didn't stop people asking when she was going to have babies though, especially after she got married last summer. Many women aren't particularly maternal. I'm not.

Indigo8 Tue 11-Mar-25 17:21:57

I had been married quite a long time before I had children, partly because we delayed for financial reasons and partly because it took a while before I conceived the first time.

I never discussed it with my immediate family or close friends but several acquaintances and work colleagues assumed that I had chosen to be child free. Several people thought it was a good thing as I obviously wasn't the maternal type and others thought it was selfish of me to not want children. I had not wanted to discuss my childlessness with any of these people let alone asked for their opinions. I still don't understand why they thought I had to defend my perceived position.

I don't think there is such a stigma attached to choosing to be childless as society is generally more tolerant of people who don't tread the well worn path of conventional behaviour. Also we are more aware of the fragility of the world than previous generations have been.

IMO nobody should have to justify having or not having children to anybody.

M0nica Tue 11-Mar-25 17:42:49

DD was 4 when she first expressed doubts about having children and around 20, she decided she wasn't that keen onhaving a committed relationship with anyone.

No on in our family has ever questioned her or felt the need to know why she has made these decisions, She is now in her mid-50s. DS went the conventional route, wife and babies and we have never questioned his decisions either.

Cossy Tue 11-Mar-25 17:52:11

I just think whatever a couple, or woman, decides is entirely up to them.

We have 5 children between us, 4 doing well and contributing to society, and one trying to make it with a band 😱😱.

As an only child I longed for a big family and I feel privileged to have this happen.

The couples I feel most empathy with are those who try and try for babies, get pregnant and lose them, and people ask them when they are going to start a family.

mum2three Tue 11-Mar-25 17:54:24

I have three children and none have children. My daughter is a career girl and simply has no maternal feelings...; one son and his wife enjoy the freedom they have without children; other son intended to have children but the time just never seemed right.

I have never understood why so many women have babies but are quite happy for someone else to bring them up while they go out to work. For me, being a mother was all about looking after a baby and being a proper mother.

Casdon Tue 11-Mar-25 17:55:27

I have a few married friends who chose not to have children, for different reasons. One because she didn’t want the risk of having a child with the same character as her (horrible) father, one a career girl who chose to be sterilised because she was certain from childhood that she never wanted children, and one who is very environmentally conscious and thinks there are already enough children in the world. None of them regretted their choices - I think those who are most likely to are those who make a purely economic decision, or whose partners don’t want them so they go along with that.

Babs03 Tue 11-Mar-25 17:57:48

No reasons or justifications needed, people should really not have to explain.

Ziplok Tue 11-Mar-25 18:08:02

It’s an entirely personal decision, and nothing to do with anyone else at all.

Some people long for a family of their own, others don’t have the desire for children. (I realise, of course, there are couples who long for a child and are unable to have one, which is desperately sad and my heart goes out to them, but I think this thread is more along the lines of people who decide one way or the other about having children).

The decision is, as I say, a personal one, and it’s not for anyone else to question that decision.

With all due respect, mum2three, not every couple can afford for the mother (or father) to be a stay at home parent, even if they would like to. You have been very fortunate to be able to do so, for others that choice isn’t an option in todays world.

watermeadow Tue 11-Mar-25 18:09:03

Having young children now means forever juggling work and childcare. It costs a fortune, means parents hardly see them between weekends, there are constant panics over sick children and breakdown of care.
Two of my daughters could only pursue their careers because they had parents and in laws nearby, giving years of free care. The daughter with no relatives available was away from breakfast to bedtime, paying the same as their mortgage each month for care.
Eldest daughter is childless, well-off and high up in her job.
Children are our future. It should not be so hard to have them and look after them.

Cossy Tue 11-Mar-25 18:15:23

mum2three

I have three children and none have children. My daughter is a career girl and simply has no maternal feelings...; one son and his wife enjoy the freedom they have without children; other son intended to have children but the time just never seemed right.

I have never understood why so many women have babies but are quite happy for someone else to bring them up while they go out to work. For me, being a mother was all about looking after a baby and being a proper mother.

I think you’ll find those of us who had to work as no real choice, or choose to work as had great careers, including me, are all “proper mothers”

A very rude and patronising remark!

Indigo8 Tue 11-Mar-25 18:15:44

My grandmother once told me that she was very scared and wished she had not got pregnant at the time my father was born. He was born in 1915 and my grandfather was not with her as he was a medical officer with the Anzacs in Gallipoli. My grandmother said that she didn't regret having my father but at the time of his birth the world seemed too awful a place to bring a child into.

I wonder if subsequent generations have wondered about having children for similar reasons.