Tommy Robinson Conservative Woman

I lack enthusiasm for Mr Musk to involve himself, at any level, in the politics of Britain. I do not wish any of his activities in the USA to be celebrated and I fear that his family background of rich, entitled white South Africans colours his judgment.
If the publication cited praises him, then....enough said, for me.

No Monica it is about safeguarding, and I am afraid the progressives frequently fail in regard to safeguarding as they get lost in the be kind mentality. There was a specific problem in the Catholic Church, there may well be specific problems in other churches that have yet to be fully uncovered. Power, a largely male environment, heirachy, etc etc rarely provide an environment where safeguarding children goes well. There was/is a specific pattern of behaviour amongst some communities in certain towns, in the way there is a certain pattern of behaviour amongst online predators. (Generally white loners, middle aged men) We should talk openly about them all. If there is a focus on grooming gangs at the moment it is because those victims were ignored for years, as were the victims of Catholic priests, etc.

Chocolatelovinggran

I lack enthusiasm for Mr Musk to involve himself, at any level, in the politics of Britain. I do not wish any of his activities in the USA to be celebrated and I fear that his family background of rich, entitled white South Africans colours his judgment.
If the publication cited praises him, then....enough said, for me.

Me too!

JaneJudge

All Stephen is doing is profiteering from all this. He doesn't care about anything to do with it all.

we need to listen and be influenced by reliable and credible sources

Yes!

Galaxy

I am not surprised that various people such as Tommy Robinson have a platform on this issue. Any attempt to discuss it is shut down. I talk about the problems within the Catholic Church with regard to safeguarding, when I do that no one goes 'but what about the Methodists that commit abuse'. It is fine to talk about abuse by catholic priests, it is fine to talk about abuse by Asian grooming gangs, it is fine to talk about the specific risk from step parents. They all are specific problems with regard to safeguarding. I couldn't care less who gets upset about those conversations.

I completely agree, abuse, wherever and however it happens should be highlighted, investigated and prevented, or at least stopped!

We need more people like Tommy Robinson, people not afraid to speak out about issues that many turn a blind eye to for fear of being called racist.

RosieandherMaw

An interesting thread title.
I wondered if he’d transitioned 🤔🤔🤔

Me too RosieandherMaw,
I was partially dumbstruck thinking about what he would look like as a Ladeee! 😚

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a violent, tax evading football hooligan, bail-breaching, head butting, common assault inflicting, racist, conspiracy theory promoting, Putin supporting, Russian money seeking, passport faking, Covid rule breaking, convicted fraudster, journalist stalking supporter of people who post Gas The Jews videos.

Farage called him a thug.

Do you really want more people like him Kandinsky?

The article in the O/P says,

"It is ironic that it is Robinson who, more than anyone else, has consistently investigated and championed these ignored girls".

This is rubbish. The brave men and women who actually fought on the ground to make sure the issues were brought to light and continued to do so consistently who made the difference, who made it happen. One such was honoured on a thread on GB news in GN (collecting money). Looked at the racism issue full on as did many. I've just googled a whole number of reports on those who were involved and

Tommy Robinson doesnt get a mention. Words not actions are easy.

He's jumped into the issue for political reasons backed by Musk (who has more political reasons).

survivorsnetwork.org.uk/survivors-are-not-political-pawns/

From a survivors network well worth a read:

"Survivors Are Not Political Pawns
Survivors Deserve Support, Not Political Agendas"

"Last week, social media was ablaze with prominent and influential men embroiling themselves in UK politics. Tommy Robinson, Elon Musk, and misogynist poster boy Andrew Tate —figures notorious for their harmful rhetoric and behaviour—took to social platforms to criticise the UK Labour government’s handling of child grooming gangs in Oldham.

To the untrained eye, it may seem like these individuals are advocating for survivors of child sexual abuse (CSA). However, their sudden interest in the topic feels convenient as well as disingenuous and hypocritical, to say the least. All three have faced accusations of promoting harmful ideologies and/or engaging in abusive behaviour that runs counter to the values of justice, accountability, and survivor support needed to advocate for survivors of sexual violence. Their involvement reeks of opportunism, using the pain of survivors to score political points and bolster their influence in right-wing circles."

Churchview

I’m sure he is some of the things you say, I know about some but not about everything you’ve said.
But, even if he is everything you say, it doesn’t mean he’s wrong about the grooming gang scandal does it.
It sometimes seems people have more hate for Tommy Robinson than they do for Muslim men who rape children.
I have zero time for these people.

JaneJudge

We should all eat chocolate ❤️
I think we’d all be happier and much more peaceful

And fatter 😲

Wyllow3

The article in the O/P says,

"It is ironic that it is Robinson who, more than anyone else, has consistently investigated and championed these ignored girls".

This is rubbish. The brave men and women who actually fought on the ground to make sure the issues were brought to light and continued to do so consistently who made the difference, who made it happen. One such was honoured on a thread on GB news in GN (collecting money). Looked at the racism issue full on as did many. I've just googled a whole number of reports on those who were involved and

Tommy Robinson doesnt get a mention. Words not actions are easy.

He's jumped into the issue for political reasons backed by Musk (who has more political reasons).

I agree with you.

Churchview

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a violent, tax evading football hooligan, bail-breaching, head butting, common assault inflicting, racist, conspiracy theory promoting, Putin supporting, Russian money seeking, passport faking, Covid rule breaking, convicted fraudster, journalist stalking supporter of people who post Gas The Jews videos.

Farage called him a thug.

Do you really want more people like him Kandinsky?

Exactly. He is every one of those things and more. We need less of his like, not more!

I have no time for any men or women who rape and abuse children or cover-ups.

I have no time for politicians who try to gain popularity off the backs of victims.

Kandinsky

He is all of the things I've listed. That information is freely available from multiple sources.

No, it doesn’t mean he’s wrong about the grooming gang scandal, but it does cast doubt on his motivation to condemn violent, dangerous criminals when he is in fact one himself.

People don't have more hate for 'Robinson' than they do the grooming gangs. Most people feel repelled by all dangerous criminals and want to see them bought to justice, and that includes Robinson.

I'm sure you can see why many people have zero time for people who support 'Robinson' given pretty much every single aspect of his history and criminal record.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson

First thing to do surely is always to check the source, before giving an article any credence and reposting.
Lots of ‘soap boxing’ on TCW site, by people who have no credibility in the field they comment on. For some the only publications, they lay claim to are novels.
As always, there are nuggets of truth in some of the articles (not the one about Tommy Robinson of course) but with no proper sources, references, etc. they are nothing better than opinion - and not even well informed opinion.

Is there an evidence that this is the same Lizzie Webb? Not sure she ever described herself as an education consultant. She did go into challenging education environments to deliver exercise classes. But let’s be really sure before we jump to conclusions about people’s identity.

On the other hand here is someone who writes a lot on TWC and other sites - Dr Niall McCrae.
Here is another publication he writes for
hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/HnH_Turn-Off-The-Light_2023-09.pdf
He might want to note the company he keeps. I don’t have the energy or the inclination to carry on searching for the other writers on TCW.
Spottydog - I have the advantage of years of experience in research, and I know it’s really easy for me to find information that other people find it difficult to disentangle. None of this is meant personally and I’m sorry if it feels a bit harsh.

Lahlah65 You might at least have the decency to get my name right before posting. Incidentally, for what it is worth, I enjoy The Conservative Woman and find it very insightful. Obviously it doesn't fit well with the pearl clutching gransnetters but there are some of us who do lean very much to the right and the diversity is what makes gransnet interesting in that we don't all share the same views but need to respect the views of others.

@spottybook, I don't possess pearls and if I did am pretty certain I wouldn't clutch them.
I do respect the views of others but will call out views that support Trump, Musk, or Yaxley Lennon, all of whom I consider to be deeply disturbing individuals capable of doing great harm to others.

Why do some people insist on calling Tommy Robison by his birth name? Everyone knows Tommy Robinson Isn’t his real name, but it’s the name he is known by.
What point are people trying to make calling him Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon? It’s hardly ‘breaking news’

I do respect the views of others but will call out views that support Trump, Musk, or Yaxley Lennon, all of whom I consider to be deeply disturbing individuals capable of doing great harm to others

Totally agree. A vile group of individuals who choose a bandwagon to promote their clear fascist ideology. They collectively disrespect the law, are racists and misogynists and use tactics to summon rioters to the streets to threaten the peace.

Lahlah65

Is there an evidence that this is the same Lizzie Webb? Not sure she ever described herself as an education consultant. She did go into challenging education environments to deliver exercise classes. But let’s be really sure before we jump to conclusions about people’s identity.

My post yesterday morning:

Lizzie Webb was the author
Lizzie Webb has worked in the education sector for thirty years.

I didn't make that up, it was in the blurb about her on the ConservativeWoman website.

I then asked:
Who is she?