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DollyD Thu 26-Jun-25 20:42:39

I’m not quite sure what to do about this but my friend has become quite snappy if I don’t just listen and agree.
We’ve been friends for thirty years and have always got along fine with meeting for lunch and theatre trips,
then a year ago she decided she wanted to move near to her son and family and into a bungalow, which was all fine and she was looking at various bungalows in the area and then told me she had found one which was empty and could move immediately, her house sold within a few weeks.
I was happy for her until I saw it on the moving day, as she’d asked me to help her with last minute packing.
To be honest, I was shocked as all along she had been saying she wanted one with no work needing doing at all and what I saw was a house that had been lived in for 30 years with nothing being updated.
She did say, she knew it needed a bit of work but it was in the right area and near the family.
I left feeling very worried and a week later she phoned me practically hysterical saying she’d made a huge mistake, she hated the place and it was a dump which needed work on everything, I tried to calm her and told her she could get a builder to do kitchen, bathroom and other jobs and she could move into an Air b&b which wouldn’t have cost a lot as it was Winter and also builders would be happy with an indoor job in the bad weather.
She didn’t want the expense of Air b&b and decided to do one room at a time, which has been a nightmare getting plumbers, electricians, plasterers, decorators for work on each room.
Anyway, it’s been going on for eighteen months and when we meet I try to steer away from the subject as she gets so angry while telling me the latest developments.
Leading to the other evening when she rang about something or other, which lead to telling the latest difficulties….
which I am sympathetic about but she does seem to just want to catastrophe everything.
I was trying to help by saying it probably wouldn’t be as bad as she feared as I’d had similar work done and she suddenly exploded, told me that I’m giving her anxiety and just not listening or understanding what she’s saying, actually I was but just not agreeing with all she was saying.
I apologised for not understanding the work entailed properly over the phone, started a different conversation and left the call as soon as I reasonably could do.
What do I do going forward, do I not offer any advice or ideas when she’s telling me about problems with the work any more.
That’s how I feel but is that being a good friend? As I really do feel for her and only want the best for her.
Sorry for long post but it’s been pecking my head all day.

Mt61 Thu 26-Jun-25 20:49:49

She sounds stressed to hell, taking it out on you as you are her good friend. Not sure what you can say or do, tbh. Is she elderly? Suffering from poor health perhaps.

Skydancer Thu 26-Jun-25 22:23:04

I have a friend who behaves in a similar manner. To keep the friendship which I do value I have accepted that she has a somewhat histrionic personality.

Elowen33 Thu 26-Jun-25 23:19:53

Sometimes people just want to have a rant, they dont want advice or sympathy just someone to nod and agree.

Wyllow3 Thu 26-Jun-25 23:51:38

Elowen33

Sometimes people just want to have a rant, they dont want advice or sympathy just someone to nod and agree.

I agree. The best thing sometimes is just to have a sympathetic ear. Sort of walk with her through it. More suggestions - and it's natural you want to help -are great for some, just the ticket, but for others it's best to let her work through it unless she specifically asks for advice. You've tried so hard it does you credit - time to try another way?

Jennerdysphoria Fri 27-Jun-25 00:40:05

Would she consider employing a project manager?

www.checkatrade.com/blog/cost-guides/house-renovation-project-manager-cost/

Not sure that checkatrade is a reliable source, but there will be others.

Esmay Fri 27-Jun-25 01:02:17

It's really hard to cope with an angry friend especially when you're trying to sympathesise and be helpful.
As you've been friends for a long time I guess that she thinks that it's okay .
Either you walk away from your relationship or you grin and bear it or perhaps tell her how you feel .
I'm feeling disenchanted with several of my friends.
I really don't feel well and they don't seem to understand that I get tired.
I continue to be polite,sympathetic and caring towards them and I can't say that they offer the same courtesies to me .
And I've got increasingly fed up with it .

Syracute Fri 27-Jun-25 03:02:01

I have moved many times . Her upsetment is understandsblr . Try just listening and not being
SO JUDGEy . You Are not really a very good friend .

BlueBelle Fri 27-Jun-25 04:56:45

I presume she’s under a lot of stress and probably kicking herself if I was in your position I would agree with all she’s saying and emphasise but not offer any real ideas as she will only see you as someone else to blame
Just be there for her and praise any parts that are completed

Doodledog Fri 27-Jun-25 06:07:24

Elowen33

Sometimes people just want to have a rant, they dont want advice or sympathy just someone to nod and agree.

Think Elowen has nailed it. It can be infuriating when someone seems to be suggesting the blindingly obvious, which very often is the case when they are on the outside of a problem. Not only is it not helpful, it assumes that you won’t have thought of it yourself. If your friend is already feeling that she did the wrong thing by moving (and it can be an expensive mistake) being treated as though she’s a bit dim to boot could be the final straw.

At the risk of offering uninvited advice myself (grin), maybe stop the suggestions and just sympathise? Let her get things off her chest and agree that it must be awful, then change the subject. Or a strategy I sometimes use is to ask directly- ‘are you looking for advice or support, as I’m here for either’?

Madgran77 Fri 27-Jun-25 06:24:15

In these circumstances I think what she wants from you is just a listening ear and maybe an occasional open question like "oh dear so how do you plan to move forward on that one?" Or " That must be hard. Have you decided how you are going to move things on?" Etc

cornergran Fri 27-Jun-25 06:42:13

Unless she asks for advice just listen dolly. As others have said your friend is venting and it seems views you as a safe person to let off steam with. It can be hard to be constantly on the receiving end I know but a listening ear is worth so much.

rosie1959 Fri 27-Jun-25 06:43:26

I do think from your post that your friend just needs a listening ear. How big is this bungalow 18 months seems an extremely long time for renovation has she perhaps taken on too much without the funds required and it's causing her frustration.

Aldom Fri 27-Jun-25 06:43:59

Syracuse. I don't agree with your comments. DollyD is a good friend. She has done her best to try to help her friend. She's come on GN to try to find a way to help her friend get through this stressful episode. You are the one who is being judgemental. DollyD is a kind, supportive friend in my opinion.

silverlining48 Fri 27-Jun-25 06:53:52

I agree syracuse was somewhat sharp. The poster is a good friend trying to help but as my daughter once said to me ‘stop being a solution woman’ because it wasn’t helping.
So sympathetic listening with the occasional word of support is the order of the day.

Pantglas2 Fri 27-Jun-25 07:08:13

Your post made me smile Silverlining! Some people would rather moan than fix things with a little lateral thinking!

Sadgrandma Fri 27-Jun-25 07:29:06

I can’t help wondering if she is getting any help from her son since she has moved to be near him and his family.

Aldom Fri 27-Jun-25 07:30:47

From personal experience I would agree with 'not being a solution woman ', Silver.
I just don't agree with the OP being referred to as judgemental.
A close friend of mine always tries to come up with a solution, when all I want is for her to acknowledge that she has heard what I said.
But I know that her advice comes from a kind and caring heart.
The OP has shown great kindness and patience over the past 18 months.

Toetoe Fri 27-Jun-25 09:56:48

Reading this reminds me of certain friends who truly just don't listen with their ears . I have on the odd stressed occasion phoned them to express my stress situation , not wanting advice or solutions , just to get my feelings out . They interrupt and overtalk and give opinions which isn't wanted . Kindly hearts but not really understanding.
Op sounds a wonderful kind understanding friend , deeply loyal , so I suggest just listen , mmm and ah when needed until she gets it out , which she will , till the next time .

buffyfly9 Fri 27-Jun-25 10:22:05

Ignore Syracuse, her comments are nasty. Doodledog has it right, be a sympathetic and listening ear, as you have been doing; it's all about being heard and getting things off your chest to a good friend who doesn't immediately offer solutions, at that moment she just wants your non judgmental friendship, you sound a lovely friend and I hope she appreciates you.

DollyD Fri 27-Jun-25 10:32:18

Thank you for all your replies, I will take your general advice and just be a listening ear, which will be difficult when she is relating the latest problem and I have an idea how to solve it but I will now wait to be asked for any advice.
Someone asked why the project was taking so long, it is because she is getting one room up to scratch, then having a break from it all.
Another suggested that it was an expensive mistake and this is also true, as she overspent to be in this area and now all this renovation on top and no her son doesn’t seem to be helping much but she knows he’s not a hands on type of person and has a stressful job and his own wife and family. All their renovations were overseen by his father in law, a retired builder, I did suggest to my friend that maybe he would help her but she wasn’t keen on that idea.
She says she wants her life back, so I tell her how well she is doing, praise the finished work and say bit by bit it will all be done.
It’s not all gloom and doom as I might have implied, we still do go out and generally have a laugh about something or other as we have the same sense of humour and I think that relieves the stress, she does mention that we always end up laughing, so maybe I should be that friend.

Allira Fri 27-Jun-25 10:32:25

Elowen33

Sometimes people just want to have a rant, they dont want advice or sympathy just someone to nod and agree.

On another thread, the advice was to nod and say something innocuous like "Goodness".

It is exhausting, though.

My question is: your friend moved to be near her family. Are they helping her out at all? Is she disappointed that they are not giving her the support she hoped for?

However don't ask her this! It could cause a rift.

DollyD Fri 27-Jun-25 12:54:27

This clip just popped up online and resonated with me.
“Sometimes the most loving decision is letting go, praying for them and leaving it all up to God”
Not letting go of my friend of course but letting go of my need to try to help.

woodenspoon Fri 27-Jun-25 13:45:27

I’ve a friend of 40 years who is like this. Theres always something that is a big negative in her life whether it be a property that she bought and wishes she hadn’t, problems with an old friend that she looks after, husbands health issues etc. I’ve learned from experience that she just wants a moan, not practical solutions and so I just listen and say things like ‘oh dear’ ‘you’ve so much going on’ ‘you’re coping well’ etc etc. this seems to work. I don’t offer solutions, just listen to the moaning and letting off steam.

grannybuy Fri 27-Jun-25 14:05:13

It’s instinctive to try to find a solution that will help when someone is ‘ crying out ‘, so to speak, but as most posters suggest, it’s a sympathetic ear that’s required.