Is intolerance getting worse on GN?

Claremont

No comment about Rod being a keen Enoch Powell supporters in the 70s. Wonder if anyone here also supported Powell's dreams for Great Britain.

No! But I’m pretty sure (sadly) my late parents did! Very right wing people, strangely were amazing parents, kind and loving people with some very “strange” (to me,) beliefs.

I have friends of all political persuasions and beliefs and opinions, I try very hard with some of them to avoid this topic.

GrannyGravy13

Doodledog

Oh, I'm sure we all do - anyone who put pop stars' political allegiances at the top of their list of things to worry about would be very strange.

It doesn't mean that knowing what he's really like sits well, though.

Do you or any other posters on here ask what a persons political allegiances are on first meeting them?

Do you or any other posters on GN only have friends whose political affiliations are the same as yours?

I can only speak for myself but the three girlfriends I have been friends with (I suppose they should be called women friends) for 52, 45 and 30 years, all have different political views and affiliations, none of which align with mine.

I find that people I meet often slip anti immigration comments into a conversation ( it happened with someone that was doing some work on my house the other week). And I’ve pointed out in the past that the odd job man I use ( and unfortunately depend upon) does the same. Someone in my dog walking group called coloured people darkies. No idea how he managed to get that into the conversation but I got thrown out of the group when I eventually lost my temper about his racist comments. When I still worked people in the waiting room used to go on about foreigners. Same thing happened when I used to go to the sauna at my gym, so I started going in the evening when there was a younger age group.

Cossy

I have friends of all political persuasions and beliefs and opinions, I try very hard with some of them to avoid this topic.

Oh so do I. And our family goes from the sublime to the ridiculous politcally. But I do think I would have to draw the line at Enoch Powell, really. We can agree to disagree on so many things, but sheer racism, inctiment to violence against certain groups, is a massive red line.

Claremont

No comment about Rod being a keen Enoch Powell supporters in the 70s. Wonder if anyone here also supported Powell's dreams for Great Britain.

Never knew that he was.

I was listening to The Carpenters! No idea if they were Democratic or Republican either. 😁

Wonder if anyone here also supported Powell's dreams for Great Britain.

I expect many were at infant school.

I agree Claremont. Being friends with anyone and everyone sounds great but there is a limit.

GrannyGravy13

Doodledog

Oh, I'm sure we all do - anyone who put pop stars' political allegiances at the top of their list of things to worry about would be very strange.

It doesn't mean that knowing what he's really like sits well, though.

Do you or any other posters on here ask what a persons political allegiances are on first meeting them?

Do you or any other posters on GN only have friends whose political affiliations are the same as yours?

I can only speak for myself but the three girlfriends I have been friends with (I suppose they should be called women friends) for 52, 45 and 30 years, all have different political views and affiliations, none of which align with mine.

I know that my Scottish friends have no time for the SNP.
Apart from that, I really have no idea of anyone's political allegiance.

Wonder if anyone here also supported Powell's dreams for Great Britain

I can safely say that living on the Isle of Wight, I considered myself far too cool to support anyone called Enoch! 😱

I was 19 when Powell made his rivers of blood speech. I knew one non white person, a young man from India studying English lit with a further ed teacher we all worshipped (A bit).

My dad wasn’t a horrible racist but he believed Powell was making a valid point. We had an argument and I thank the heavens agreed to disagree.

I’ve been ‘political’ for as long as I remember. I was influenced by the beat poets, by Woodie Guthrie, Bob Dylan/joan Baez, the anti Vietnam Wat movement, CND etc etc

I’ve always had friends of different political persuasions. I still do.

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

Enoch Powell was my MP, and I was in Wolverhampton outside the Grammar School when he made his second speech (the first was at a private function.)
Unlike so many politicians he was very much in touch with what was happening in his constituency, lived in the middle of it and was aware of the concerns of his constituents.
A man much maligned .

Much maligned in your view, not in the view of others. Free to chose of course

I wonder who reported lafergar and what it was about her post that breached guidelines

I know I read it but I can't remember it, makes me think it wasn't anything awful but I think the heat is getting to me so I haven't a clue.

I saw it, and have no idea what was against the guidelines - but as the guidelines are so vague that's not surprising, really.

I'd say intolerance is getting worse on GN though

What on earth? deleted for what exactly?

No idea, lafergar, so the deletion is not a lesson to us all, is it?

Doodledog, I saw the post and genuinely can’t imagine what provoked the report button, or its deletion. On this thread of all threads.
My first thought was that deletion confirms intolerance is getting worse on Gransnet. I’m beginning to agree with the posters who say let posts stand - and the suggestion if we do report we should say we are reporting . It’s pathetic

Let me see.....surely it couldn't be something personal against a self proclaimed leftie could it?

God, it's pathetic.

FWIW I’ve reported the deleted post, pointing out those of us who posted we saw it and can’t see any reason to report much less delete
What on earth is happening - report buttons, deletions, suspensions, bans

I think we are having a "good old thrash out" of these issues Iam
.. and clearly a lot of us feel its valuable or we wouldn't be doing it maybe?

Nothing of value came out of his mouth , thats for sure.

Come back regular Wyllow who is peace loving.

Cossy

Oreo

The past is a another country, they do things differently there.

I love that phrase!

It’s actually “the past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.”

quote by L P Hartley in his wonderful novel “The Go-Between”.
Followed by the film in later years which was filmed nearby.

I missed the deleted post. That’s what comes of trying to watch an Aussie crime drama, read an English crime drama and follow a thread on Gransnet all at the same time!