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Halal Slaugthtering of Animals

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Caleo Wed 08-Oct-25 11:39:07

I submit that the ethnic custom of halal slaughter will fade away as the younger generations become better educated, more travelled, more in touch with other cultures of belief, and more inclined to be vegetarian.

Caleo Thu 09-Oct-25 18:51:55

If halal is properly killed it can be kinder than the alternative.

Properly killed halal slaughter is done to an animal who is tightly and comfortably restrained at the time of slaughter handling. arou nd the killing event . The effect of properly immobilising an animal is that it feels more calm, less agitated.

Please read Temple Grandin on the subject. Abattoirs in the US now take her advice and the resulting calmer animal makes the work of the abattoir a lot easier.

www.google.com/search?q=temple+grandin&sca_esv=2afd3ac4ae6c0b30&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBGB739GB739&sxsrf=AE3TifN6wLyCBq_O90NF83kwECs0yX0Xug%3A1760032200804&ei=yPXnaLriMO

Betony Thu 09-Oct-25 21:15:38

Go vegetarian. Did it 40 years ago and now can't even look at meat. Also support animal charities who are working against cruel, increasingly industrialised slaughter of animals. Every little helps.

Maremia Thu 09-Oct-25 21:23:22

Thank you all for your information about the methods.
The thing about soya production using up natural resources for example clearing rainforest areas is, I have been told, that those cleared areas are used for growing cattle feed soya. Human feed soya is grown elsewhere.
So if you cut out the 'middle man' process by giving up some of your meat meals, you will reduce deforestation.

Skydancer Thu 09-Oct-25 21:28:08

Aveline

I despair for humanity at the cruelty caused by religion. It's all nonsense.

Absolutely agree.

Maremia Thu 09-Oct-25 21:33:13

And eating meat?

Allira Thu 09-Oct-25 22:46:14

Skydancer

Aveline

I despair for humanity at the cruelty caused by religion. It's all nonsense.

Absolutely agree.

Me too. ☹

Caleo Fri 10-Oct-25 09:45:37

GrannyGravy13

I am fortunate when buying meat and fish I use the local farm shop only buy free range, we live close to a thriving fishing area and can have a delivery straight from the small boats.

Just waiting for someone to say vegetables suffer…

That is pretty much ideal, GrannyGravy. However I expect such quality meat comes at a cost. Home bred, freerange fattened ,and locally killed is more expensive is it not?

It would be interesting to know how much more expensive such quality products are compared with e.g. Tesco.

Caleo Fri 10-Oct-25 09:53:36

Betony

Go vegetarian. Did it 40 years ago and now can't even look at meat. Also support animal charities who are working against cruel, increasingly industrialised slaughter of animals. Every little helps.

sunshine

Iam64 Fri 10-Oct-25 10:26:49

Caleo, my butcher sells local lamb, free range chicken, free range pork and beef from just over the Pennines. I eat less meat but of good quality.
Supermarket meat bares no comparison with meat from a good butcher.

Robin202 Fri 10-Oct-25 14:15:09

There is no such thing as ‘kind slaughter’ no matter how its presented. Yes grass fed and a good life enjoying the sunshine is all well and good but to end it by being herded into a packed transporter and smelling the blood and feeling the fear on arrival, doesnt cut it. This is the reason I don’t eat meat. The horror of slaughter. Any slaughter.

Cold Fri 10-Oct-25 14:44:07

Maremia

I have read about Halal, but is Kosher by the same method?

Pretty much - both involve the animal's throat being cut

Kosher also requires only the front end of the animal being consumed

sunami Fri 10-Oct-25 14:54:08

Cold

Maremia

I have read about Halal, but is Kosher by the same method?

Pretty much - both involve the animal's throat being cut

Kosher also requires only the front end of the animal being consumed

I think I mentioned that earlier. Even if the front end of the animal were labelled "kosher" so people could avoid it, the rear end is not labelled and is sold into the general markets, so people have no idea how the animal has been slaughtered.

sunami Fri 10-Oct-25 14:58:40

Caleo

GrannyGravy13

I am fortunate when buying meat and fish I use the local farm shop only buy free range, we live close to a thriving fishing area and can have a delivery straight from the small boats.

Just waiting for someone to say vegetables suffer…

That is pretty much ideal, GrannyGravy. However I expect such quality meat comes at a cost. Home bred, freerange fattened ,and locally killed is more expensive is it not?

It would be interesting to know how much more expensive such quality products are compared with e.g. Tesco.

It's not just meat which is bought uncooked. The processed meat market (pies, pasties, ready meals) must be worth a fortune. AFAIK there is no obligation to declare the origin of the meat in processed food. Processors aren't going to be using top quality products. Kosher abbatoirs are only to keen to offload the rear ends of animals.

Maremia Fri 10-Oct-25 15:21:18

Nothing to do with animal cruelty issues but processed meat is now considered to be very unhealthy.

sunami Fri 10-Oct-25 16:33:14

Maremia

Nothing to do with animal cruelty issues but processed meat is now considered to be very unhealthy.

I didn't mean "processed meat" as in sausages and salami, but the meat in pies, pasties and microwave meals (and even sandwiches), which doesn't have its origin on the packet.