Goodbye Duke & Duchess of York.

friendlygingercat

I feel a bit sorry for the man. He has exercised poor judgement, arrogance and insensitivity but he has not been convicted of any crime in this country. Not the sharpest tool in the box but stupidity is not a crime.

So he lied to conceal things that happened in the past. Many people do. Been there, done it, got the t-shrt.

Remained friends with someone who had committed a serious crime. Done that too.

He asked his bodyguard to dig up dirt on Virginia Giuffre . This is standard practice in law. Nothing new there.

I feel more contempt for Michelle Mone who profited massively from fraud at the expense of the tax payer and apparently cannot be touched.

As I posted on a different thread.

We've all missed you, you make us think.

However, here I believe you missed the mark.

winterwhite

Yes, ferry23, you’re right but I didn’t think that Andrew had been accused of procuring and trafficking. It’s plausible that he didn’t realise it was happening. He doesn’t appear to be a deep thinker.
I don’t question the seriousness of Epstein’s convictions , of course I don’t, I just wonder whether Andrew is paying an excessively high price for his own degree of involvement because he is already unpopular and disliked for other reasons.

I agree, although I'd describe him as an arrogant, egotistical, vain, sleazebag, I doubt that he knew what was going on behind the scenes. I certainly wouldn't describe him as a paedophile, on the evidence we've heard. I think if there were more to it, younger girls would have come out by now and spoken up about it. Especially after the payout that Virginia Giuffre received.

Who is going to give Sarah money, or will she cling to Andrew's shirt tails, as I am assuming Charles is looking after him financially, as Andrew hasn't done a hand's turn since he left the RAF.

Charleygirl5

Who is going to give Sarah money, or will she cling to Andrew's shirt tails, as I am assuming Charles is looking after him financially, as Andrew hasn't done a hand's turn since he left the RAF.

Andrew was in the Royal Navy.

Sadly, his bravery in the Falklands War is all forgotten now, superseded by his behaviour since then.
Although, according to some who served with him, he was insufferably arrogant even then.

The internet suggests that there are 105,000 prostitutes working in the UK. I have no idea how many clients they see a week but it may well be an industry serving significant numbers. Just saying….

Just saying what, exactly?

I’m inclined to agree with you Anniebach. For years there have been stories about Harry and James Hewitt, when to me it is quite obvious that Harry is KC’s son - the nose and the eyes have it. But Andrew? I scratch my head to find any resemblance to PP, or either of his brothers.

Allira probably one in ten men have used the services of a prostitute? Is Prince Andrew really so different?

Thanks, my memory is on a permanent holiday.

He had more than a few British real friends. Plenty of politicians, the aristocracy and obviously the royal family. I'm more than happy for investigations to carry on in this country, the more disgusting men named and shamed (and hopefully prosecuted) the better as far as I'm concerned.

ronib

Allira probably one in ten men have used the services of a prostitute? Is Prince Andrew really so different?

What you said was:

Best not go there - you have absolutely no way of knowing what services your own father required when single, divorced, unhappy or otherwise having relationship problems. He certainly isn’t going to tell you.

Well, you can speak for your own father and male family members. Do not presume to speak for those of other posters.

Allira no need to be rude.

You have missed the point.

ronib

Allira probably one in ten men have used the services of a prostitute? Is Prince Andrew really so different?

Do you know men who go specifically on free trips to knowingly have sex with underaged girls then ronib?

Yes of course

Prince Andrew

He's her baby, doesn't matter what the golden child does, mother will always forgive them.
I know because I've got a golden child sibling, they've done everything you can imagine that's bad and yet the parent forgave it all, repeatedly bailed them out of trouble and even lied for them. And just like the Queen, would have paid someone off to shit them up from telling the truth.

The rest probably pay.

ronib

Allira no need to be rude.

I'm not rude.

Your post was quite shocking and implied things about posters' fathers which were extremely unpleasant.

I think Thailand is quite popular. Casdon

Simply Andrew, or they'll go back to randy Andy.

For goodness sake Essexgirl; you read somewhere a while back ...... !!!

I didn’t realise you knew Prince Andrew ronib. That must be why you are attempting to defend his reprehensible behaviour, because why else would you?

No I did not Allira. You must realise that a man’s sexuality is really his own business and he’s very unlikely to tell his family and friends if he does require sex services.

I think his days are numbered for staying in his present home too. I think it's William pushing for them to be disassociated with them, although I still think the daughters will be accepted into the Royal family