Well done to the Nurses who stood up for Women’s Rights

Bridget Phillipson was backed by UNISON for deputy leader. UNISON are so pro trans it amounts to anti-women, despite women being the majority of their membership, about 75%. They don't back female single sex spaces excluding transwomen to remain single sex. She knows which side her bread is buttered.

What is the equality they’re talking about? What equality do they envisage without taking away women’s rights, which is what they really want?

E.g. Separate toilets for trans the same way that females have separate toilets?
I’m probably more in favour of that than TW have shown themselves to be.

Those who don’t want to reveal themselves as TW won’t be happy with that.
Those like Eddie and India wouldn’t like it because they want to use female facilities.

I think the term coercive agenda is really accurate.

Mollygo

What is the equality they’re talking about? What equality do they envisage without taking away women’s rights, which is what they really want?

E.g. Separate toilets for trans the same way that females have separate toilets?
I’m probably more in favour of that than TW have shown themselves to be.

Those who don’t want to reveal themselves as TW won’t be happy with that.
Those like Eddie and India wouldn’t like it because they want to use female facilities.

I think the term coercive agenda is really accurate.

The most important thing for TW is basically that they have somewhere they can go and pee - like the rest of us - in private.

Surely?

If there are separate toilets which they refuse to use because they insist on going into women-only facilities, then yes - the agenda is obvious.

If trans friendly facilities are provided, and they should be, in my opinion, then they have no valid argument about using women-only toilets.

Maremia

If trans friendly facilities are provided, and they should be, in my opinion, then they have no valid argument about using women-only toilets.

Absolutely!
That’s what they should have been fighting for all along.
Women would support that, providing the trans friendly doesn’t jut mean annexing female safe spaces.

But there are the Eddies, Indias, Dylans and Elliots, Emily Bs etc who will not be happy, and will probably make that clear by continuing to try and use female spaces.

Maremia

If trans friendly facilities are provided, and they should be, in my opinion, then they have no valid argument about using women-only toilets.

Who could have foretold that women who have fought for equal rights under the law which they didn't previously have (I still remember having to get my then boyfriend's signature on a hire-purchase agreement, because even though I earned almost as much as him - I was a woman without that right), would one day have to fight men who would decide that they, too, could be women, if they chose.

Thank goodness common sense prevailed and another nurse, Jennifer Melle, who I'm sure the NHS cannot afford to lose has been reinstated in her job, having been suspended after addressing convicted paedophile identifying as a woman as "Mr". Whilst she herself was racially abused by him.

She will be taking the trust to an employment tribunal in April claiming harassment, direct discrimination and indirect discrimination linked to her gender critical and evangelical Christian beliefs.

What a state of affairs to think this woman was suspended in the first place.

I think it is a form of abuse, both to the nurse and this man's victims, to make people describe him as she.
This compelled speech is a form of coercive control.

The whole pronouns thing is absolutely coercive. This "my pronouns are......." is such a false narrative. My pronouns are the normal I, me, mine. Nobody speaks of themself using she, he, hers, his etc. That is just trying to control other people's speech and use of normal pronouns. As for the made up ones, how affected can you get?

Rosie51

The whole pronouns thing is absolutely coercive. This "my pronouns are......." is such a false narrative. My pronouns are the normal I, me, mine. Nobody speaks of themself using she, he, hers, his etc. That is just trying to control other people's speech and use of normal pronouns. As for the made up ones, how affected can you get?

In earlier days made up ones have definitely been coercive IME, particularly by younger users.
Trans changing their pronouns weekly or even daily and using their groupies to spy on and report back uses of either the grammatically correct pronoun or not their current choice of pronoun, then going to the teachers and crying transphobia resulting in a punishment of the offenders.
That was while Stonewall etc. were in power.

Galaxy

I think it is a form of abuse, both to the nurse and this man's victims, to make people describe him as she.
This compelled speech is a form of coercive control.

This compelled speach is a form of control ....

Which is the point of the whole movement.

If you can convince people of something so fundamentaly grounded in science and fact that men and women are interchangeable, how easy is it to control and influence other issues?

It is a political ideology camouflaged as a sociological/cultural difficulty.

It is the future generations who will suffer the most (that I worry about), if people don't keep protesting now.