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What are they actually doing in America to stop Trump?

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mumski Mon 19-Jan-26 14:07:02

There is obviously lots of media attention citing how appalling he is and all the vile nonsense he's been up to.
However, I see no effort being made by the American political system or the judiciary to actually stop the illegal and immoral acts he is carrying out and /or remove him from office.
Has any one any insight in to this?

Maremia Tue 20-Jan-26 19:13:35

It needs a Medic, with the power and authority, to call out his mental state and fitness to govern.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 20-Jan-26 19:15:12

issibon, people are jailed for hate speech, Please could we use the correct terminology - " hurty words " is the language of kindergarten.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 19:26:58

I uphold the right of people to vote a leader in democratically, but when citizens of a super power vote in a megalomaniac who threatens the security of our own nation and many other nations in Europe and other parts of the world, I do feel we have the right to insist upon an undemocratic end to all this before real damage is done and possibly lives lost or rather more lives lost.
We need regime change in the US.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 19:29:41

Btw that was tongue in cheek seeing as Trump loves calling for regime change.
I think he should look closer to home.

Galaxy Tue 20-Jan-26 19:34:28

Sorry you think that other countries should be able to overturn the democratic vote of another country. How is that any different from Trumps behaviour.

Galaxy Tue 20-Jan-26 19:35:15

Oh sorry it has become impossible for me to tell what us serious or not on the Trumps threadsgrin

Ladyleftfieldlover Tue 20-Jan-26 19:41:39

At the moment I would rather read about that rather clever cow than hear about trump’s latest exploits. Yes, the world is going to hell in a hand basket but unless a sizeable number of Republicans grow spines, the world as we know it is doomed.

SunnySusie Tue 20-Jan-26 19:45:14

To vote Trump in once was baffling, to give him a second term was incomprehensible. The writing was on the wall and for some reason Americans simply ignored it. Trump was saying quite openly before his second term that he wanted to be a dictator. He is now threatening the stability of the world order and demonstrating to every nasty person on the planet that you can simply get away with atrocious behaviour. I have no doubt many will be only too happy to learn from him. So far as I can see the American people are being intimidated into making very few protests. History of course has many precedents. Trump and America have made our planet a much less happy and harmonious place.

icanhandthemback Tue 20-Jan-26 19:49:07

Well said, M0nica. What a fantastic turn of phrase you have with ...mainly, men on the make, who would render their own children down for lard if it was to their advantage...

It might be naive of me but I am hoping that before Trump gets to the point of taking Greenland by force, there will be some sort of intervention by the Democrats and disillusioned Republicans.

Mojack26 Tue 20-Jan-26 20:33:33

Hopefully....the populous tide is starting to turn against him...finally.

AmberGran Tue 20-Jan-26 21:14:38

JOJO60

I don't know what Ambergran has heard on Facebook but Trump does NOT have to have Greenland for security reasons. There has been a US military base there for years and the numbers of soldiers based there has reduced from 1000 to 150. There is also an existing agreement that the base can be extended at any time. What does that say about the US concerns for security? They can expand their presence there without having to "own" Greenland. The truth is, Trump wants Greenland for the rare earth minerals is has. Just like he wants the rare earth minerals in Ukraine. He is a greedy, selfish man who only thinks about making money out of people.

I was only repeating what I had read - I didn't say it was right or that I thought it. Maybe it wasn't clear. We all know why Trump wants Greenland, and so do most Americans. The difference is that some Americans see themselves losing in the technology stakes and that scares them,

petra Tue 20-Jan-26 21:57:34

This article goes some way why Americans voted for Trump when the economy under Biden was doing very well.

www.chicagobooth.edu/review/the-economy-has-been-great-under-biden-thats-why-trump-won

sarahcyn Tue 20-Jan-26 22:01:40

I read updates daily from the Bulwark, which is the mouthpiece of the "neverTrumper" Republicans. And I agree - while the opposition is vociferous, it's not clear what they achieve: as the OP says, it's as though they are all saying "oh, the Mid-Terms will sort it all out".
Trump as President does NOT have the power, constitutionally, to set tariffs all by himself. Yet we behave as though he does.
However I disagree respectfully with @Cossy for saying that Farage's "power and confidence appears to grow daily". I may be over optimistic but I feel that Farage's peak is approaching and may have even passed; for one thing Reform's modest capability to run the proverbial whelk-stall is being exposed in local government, and for another thing, Reform is being gradually uncloaked as a pro-Putin, pro-Trump party, and Farage trying to wriggle out in his various utterings does not change the fact that his top man in Wales has been convicted of serious treason, working for Putin. Kemi Badenoch has pointed this out now very forcefully and I hope she will continue to do so. She needs to get some clear blue water between the populist Reform and the traditional moderate Tories (the ones nobody ever hears from).
Reform are not "patriots". The thing with Farage is to notice what he does NOT say. So when Trump lays into Greenland and threatens tariffs against Europe (including us) Farage's line is "we don't like the tariffs" but he stops short of criticising Trump for his bizarre territorial ambitions or his naked desire to break up NATO (Putin is having a lovely week).

SueDonim Tue 20-Jan-26 22:04:00

My grandson is out protesting ICE today.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 22:11:55

SueDonim

My grandson is out protesting ICE today.

I pray he is safe.
People should have the right to peaceful protest. Am sure thus must be a worrying time for you xx

REKA Tue 20-Jan-26 22:14:25

SueDonim

My grandson is out protesting ICE today.

And that's it. I have many friends and family in USA. They don't seem to be hugely invested in Greenland. Barely a mention on social media but plenty on
ICE.

And yes, I'm sure there are Americans who are interested in Greenland but they aren't popping up quite as regularly as ICE

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 22:17:05

Domestic issues are in their faces, they deal with it daily, whereas Greenland is too distant and so not as real to them. Is understandable.

Basgetti Tue 20-Jan-26 22:28:52

Bugger all, it seems.

Eloethan Tue 20-Jan-26 22:37:52

I find it almost unbelievable that a powerful country like the USA is being run by someone who appears to be completely mad. It is the sort of nightmare scenario conjured up by films envisaging the end of the world. He is causing hatred and discontent everywhere and appears to think that the USA is entitled to grab, by force if necessary, any area of the world which is rich in resources. Are there American people who think likewise - who believe that it is now a case of "survival of the fittest" and those that have the most power must use it to keep themselves protected from further economic decline?

The fact that he has said he isn't particularly interested in the issue of peace now because he didn't get the Nobel peace prize (what!!) demonstrates his complete lack of intelligence and morality. How can they stand to be represented by this dangerous man? Surely there must be some sort of legal mechanism by which he can be removed ? He is obviously completely insane and out of control.

There was footage today on the news of his initial reaction to the deal regarding Diego Garcia - he was perfectly happy about it then but now apparently it is the worst thing that the UK could have done. My understanding was that Diego Garcia was handed by Britain to the US for military purposes and the inhabitants were not even consulted but just shoved off to Mauritius. Yet another example of the US using its power to intimidate and subordinate other nations.

mae13 Tue 20-Jan-26 22:43:55

Galaxy

Sorry you think that other countries should be able to overturn the democratic vote of another country. How is that any different from Trumps behaviour.

While overturning the democratic vote of another country is out of bounds, we really don't have to put up with their military on British soil.

They've proved time and again that the "special relationship" never existed in the first place and if it did then it was clearly a one way street.

And not to our benefit.

I would cite the disgraceful case of Anne Sacoolis, the American wife of some kind of American diplomat, who mowed down motorcyclist 19 year old Harry Dunn, killing him.

She was allowed to claim diplomatic immunity - which is still vague and questionable - and go skipping back to the States, out of reach of justice.

A 9 month suspended sentence? From 3000 miles away? Don't make me laugh.

How many more cases similar to this have there been? Covered up by the words 'Diplomatic Immunity'?

Time to give our Cousins From Across The Pond the push - they'll abandon us when it suits them, especially with deranged Adolf Trump in charge.

SueDonim Tue 20-Jan-26 22:50:32

Thank you, Fallingstar. He’s still at school, so I don’t know what else he can do.

People in the US aren’t using SM much to protest because the backlash is likely to cost them their job or their home or even their life.

I’ve been reading about the Overton window and how Trump has been able to manipulate people into accepting things that previously would not have been acceptable. His actions have been compared to the old story of putting a frog into boiling water will cause it to leap out, but put it into cold water and slowly heat it up and the frog will simply sit there, accepting it.

MayBee70 Wed 21-Jan-26 00:04:20

SunnySusie

To vote Trump in once was baffling, to give him a second term was incomprehensible. The writing was on the wall and for some reason Americans simply ignored it. Trump was saying quite openly before his second term that he wanted to be a dictator. He is now threatening the stability of the world order and demonstrating to every nasty person on the planet that you can simply get away with atrocious behaviour. I have no doubt many will be only too happy to learn from him. So far as I can see the American people are being intimidated into making very few protests. History of course has many precedents. Trump and America have made our planet a much less happy and harmonious place.

If only the Democrats had insisted that Biden stand down so they could have had a proper leadership election,not the rushed one that they ended up with,we wouldn’t be in the mess we are with Trump, now. Much as I try to avoid the news these days I keep seeing Trump rambling on in a deranged way when I’m channel hopping.It’s so surreal I can hardly take in what I’m seeing and hearing sad.

Aveline Wed 21-Jan-26 06:16:00

I agree MayBee70. I don't think Trump won - Biden lost it by refusing to stand down much much sooner.

Galaxy Wed 21-Jan-26 06:28:55

But Biden was the only one who compared to other candidates demonstrated he could beat Trump. I think the more unfortunate thing about Biden and his health is that it is very difficult for the Democrats to take the moral high ground when it comes to Trumps health

Aveline Wed 21-Jan-26 08:18:12

He should have backed out two years before the election. This would have given the Democrats a better chance of getting organised to beat the orange menace