From the Palace to Government…

Jane43

25Avalon

King Charles isn’t snowy white either. He wanted to be a tampon. There’s a saying all power corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It does make you lose faith.

If you are going to bring up a private telephone call which was hacked and sold to the press at least get the detail right. He did not ‘want to be a tampon’, quite the opposite in fact.

Jane43 It's you who need to get your facts right , It's there for all to read if they so wanted..

I won't lower the tone by copying and paste it unless you want to continue to deny!

lemsip

Jane43

25Avalon

King Charles isn’t snowy white either. He wanted to be a tampon. There’s a saying all power corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It does make you lose faith.

If you are going to bring up a private telephone call which was hacked and sold to the press at least get the detail right. He did not ‘want to be a tampon’, quite the opposite in fact.

Jane43 It's you who need to get your facts right , It's there for all to read if they so wanted..

I won't lower the tone by copying and paste it unless you want to continue to deny!

Jane43 It's you who need to get your facts right , It's there for all to read if they so wanted..

It is there for all to read because it was hacked.

I won't quote the obvious.

Well, I don't want any of the tax I pay going towards his or his ex-wife's keep so his brother can continue paying his keep as far as I'm concerned

But taxpayers are paying for him still - the security is immense at Sandringham and we pay for it. It is also a vast property passed from royal to royal without any inheritance tax being paid - we are being scammed daily by this nonsense while we scurry round trying to collect more money from the public to keep public services afloat.

But what good would voting for a president do when we can’t even elect a decent prime minister?

We are responsible for giving power to those we vote for. We should not be giving power in any form to unelected royals. We talk about their ‘soft power’ but clearly controlling the police, royal protection officers and what the media get to print is far from ‘soft power’. Having the ability to whistle up £12 million to keep Andrew out of court is not ‘soft power’ either.

But it was £12 million of private wealth, not public wealth and most very wealthy people could probably do that - Look what many wealthy people spend on just their London houses.

Buy a house/apartment for north of £20 million and then spend another £10 million doing it up.

lemsip

Jane43

25Avalon

King Charles isn’t snowy white either. He wanted to be a tampon. There’s a saying all power corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It does make you lose faith.

If you are going to bring up a private telephone call which was hacked and sold to the press at least get the detail right. He did not ‘want to be a tampon’, quite the opposite in fact.

Jane43 It's you who need to get your facts right , It's there for all to read if they so wanted..

I won't lower the tone by copying and paste it unless you want to continue to deny!

Well, children, I shall lower the tone. Jane43 is correct. She asked what he was going to turn into, and he said, ‘ Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck’
Over and out.

Oreo

Basgetti

B and Q always have openings …..

Apart from joking there’s nothing that someone in Andrew’s position could do in the world of work.

I'd think he could be a gardner on his brother's estate. He could wash windows, keep the vehicles clean, wash laundry, change sheets.

I'd imagine he'd be a capable putzfrau.

StoneofDestiny

*Well, I don't want any of the tax I pay going towards his or his ex-wife's keep so his brother can continue paying his keep as far as I'm concerned*

But taxpayers are paying for him still - the security is immense at Sandringham and we pay for it. It is also a vast property passed from royal to royal without any inheritance tax being paid - we are being scammed daily by this nonsense while we scurry round trying to collect more money from the public to keep public services afloat.

Quite!

We certainly aren't getting value for our money when they're taking such vast amounts of it from us and certainly not giving us anything like "our value for our money".

Time (beyond time!) to get rid and be a republic. I've never seen why people should automatically acquire a prestigious and very well-paid job just from being born in the right bed.

If Andrew was a non royal, he would have been investigated, charged, and if convicted, would be in a cell by now …

Bea65

If Andrew was a non royal, he would have been investigated, charged, and if convicted, would be in a cell by now …

Strawman.

If AMW wasn't royal, Epstein wouldn't have befriended him.

Maremia

I think he is about to learn how to look after himself as it would appear that the Staff do not wish to work for him.

Good for them.

Norah 👏👏👏

Basgetti

Maremia

I think he is about to learn how to look after himself as it would appear that the Staff do not wish to work for him.

Good for them.

Yep.....a hollow laugh was heard in my house when I heard that one - ie staff refusing to work for him. Serve him right. Not that that is going to make a scrap of difference to his high level of self-regard. He will still think he's wonderful....can do no wrong.

Would love to see him trying to run a (bigger than most of us have) home on his own. Catchphrase for the day "Send him down to Sainsburys" (ie to do his own darn shopping). Would take him down a peg or two to have to stand in a supermarket queue with the rest of us.

I think he honestly doesnt seem to know what his own level of intelligence is(nt). I'd use my phrase "HE thinks he's wonderful" about him. Where many of us wouldnt give him the time of day now.

Note to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor:

I can recommend a microfibre duster on a stick, a rechargeable vacuum cleaner and best to clean the shower room daily. Ready meals are much improved now, frozen veg available.
Ironed clothes and bedding are not compulsory, even for ex-RN personnel, especially if no-one is going to see you.

M0nica

Politics has always has a strong corrupt element - and a strong group of idealistic men and women who sacrifice much to serve the country.

iIts just like real life. We all know people who are completely honest and those who are crooks - and those who seem one and turn out the other.

Some time ago I discovered that someone I went out with for six or nine months when I was in my early 20s, about 5 years later received a prison sentence for fraud and seems to have continued to walk on the shady side. Does that make me guilty or suspicious by association?

I completely agree.

Also, sadly, we hear far far more about nasty corrupt people than we do about honest good people.

I think there is a real difference between being averagely intelligent and being stupid.

I always thinks stupid means someone who is culpably ignorant, who should, as they say, 'know better'. I have a mildly learning disabled friend, I would never describe her as stupid, because within her limitations she is thoughtful and listens and acts on advice given her by those she trusts.

This is what AMN has never done. We had friends in the navy where he was considered arrogant and unwilling to listen to advice or takeit, unless compelled to. I say this with no disrespect to his courage shown in the Falklands War.

This has been his problem all along, not that he is not as bright as his siblings, but that he ispig headed and unwilling to take advice from anyone.

Even after that car crash of an interview with Emily Maitlis, he cannot see how he is his own worst enemy and should be prepared to take advice and be apologetic. let alone continuing to stand by everything he said in that interview, when it has been proven without doubt that it was not true.

Unfortunately he chose a wife who may be brighter but is still eually, if not more, stupid

We had friends in the navy where he was considered arrogant and unwilling to listen to advice or takeit, unless compelled to. I say this with no disrespect to his courage shown in the Falklands War.

Ditto, M0nica. I have heard the same.
Unlike his older brother who, I heard, was always popular because he was not arrogant and made sure he chatted to his shipmates and listened to them.

There have a.ways been many dodgy characters in politics its not new, some have never been caught, many have, Mandelson is just the latest.
Its likely Starmer will survive for now but he badly needs some successes to balance his failures.

Norah

Oreo

Basgetti

B and Q always have openings …..

Apart from joking there’s nothing that someone in Andrew’s position could do in the world of work.

I'd think he could be a gardner on his brother's estate. He could wash windows, keep the vehicles clean, wash laundry, change sheets.

I'd imagine he'd be a capable putzfrau.

Hardly! I don’t suppose he’s ever done anything round the house or garden in his life.

Basgetti

Maremia

I think he is about to learn how to look after himself as it would appear that the Staff do not wish to work for him.

Good for them.

There will be plenty of others willing to work there if the price is right.😉

He’ll have to learn quick sharp, then.

Basgetti

He’ll have to learn quick sharp, then.

Why?
He won’t be kept short of money for staff.

Yes, sadly you’re probably right. Someone will be happy to take his blood money. Though from all reports he’s a complete arse to work for so they’ll need to don very thick skin.

Apart from Mandelson having leaked sensitive information to Epstein, which is an issue on its own, I think that the country has more important things to worry about and the media are mu+h to blame. The nation is being encouraged to treat the issue as a soap opera., and enjoying kicking people who are already down. Unedifying in itself. The new guilt-by-association is a dangerous weapon.

Do we really want or need to knoow the çontents of thousands more emails? Or pay for them all to be trawled through?

I think that Starmer should get on with governing the country and stop talking about Epstein. He does have some success stories to tell and his comms teams should ensure that they are heard.

Starmer appointed a man who was known to be corrupt through his suspect previous business dealings, against serious advice. That is of great importance, the influence Peter Mandelson had over a Prime Minister, and the recent revelation that he was leaking confidential information while serving as a cabinet minister to Gordon Brown.

You clearly have no concern for national security. The nation is not being encouraged to treat these matters as a soap opera; they are a soap opera because so incredible, as in so difficult to believe. They have brought the Prime Minister into disrepute, and even worse,the public are sniggering at him openly, indicating he has lost all authority.
If you don't think that is important, many do.