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David and Tristan Tate and their “supporters”

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Cossy Fri 13-Mar-26 11:11:04

Not sure if there’s a thread about this, so apologies if there is.

This thread is about my concerns around certain social media content, primarily following David Tate. which I believe is shaping young men’s minds in both the UK and America. I apologise for the length of this post but to edit the quotes might lose the meaning.

I found this piece online, from a police statement online via Facebook:

“LATEST | A year on from seizing almost £2.9 million in assets from renowned social media influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan, Devon and Cornwall Police is seeking to invest money in projects to support action on violence against women and girls.

In December 2024, Devon and Cornwall Police was successful in a civil forfeiture order against the Tate brothers which saw in excess of £2.9 million in assets and costs seized.

The order was granted after the force was successful in proving the brothers had both cheated the revenue and laundered money through bank accounts which were based in Devon.

The investigation focused on substantial earnings accrued between 2014 and 2022, during which time Westminster Magistrates Court heard no tax or VAT was paid on those funds.

Both the Tates also sought to hide the true nature of their funds by paying money through ‘front’ accounts. That represented criminal activity, and those earnings become proceeds of crime as a result.

Following the landmark ruling, more than £1 million of the seized funds has been returned to the force to spend locally.

A spokesman for Devon and Cornwall Police said: “Our work to seize the money from the Tate brothers was diligent and showed our commitment to not allowing criminality to operate in Devon and Cornwall.

“While a sum of the seized money has been returned to the treasury, a significant sum has come back to the force locally to reinvest.

“We have decided this money will be reinvested into projects which focus on our commitment to battle violence against women and girls and support our newly launched VAWG reduction strategy.”

The spokesman added: “A panel has been established to identify projects and initiatives in support of our communities.

“Throughout the coming months we intend to show our communities how these funds can make a difference and support our communities in taking a stand against those perpetrating abuse and putting those funds at the heart of victim support.”

My biggest issue around these two (vile) brothers is the amount of young male followers they amassed who are now (so called) influencers in their own right, spreading their appalling misogynistic rhetoric.

Louis Theroux has completed a documentary interviewing some of these “influencers” and I find the outcome quite shocking.

Here’s an extract from an interview with Theroux after his making of his documentary on the “manosphere”

I apologise in advance for both the length of this post and the language in the extract, but if horrifies me that this is content aimed at 18+ males, which of course is also reaching those under 18.


“At the other end are those in his programme who take their cue from the toxic creed of Andrew Tate, who with his brother Tristan is being investigated in connection with human trafficking. Theroux had wanted Tate to play a bigger role in the film, “because he’s kind of Exhibit A in the culture”. They had “extended back and forth” on text with Tate sending long voice notes. “I think part of him wanted to do it. He does do interviews,” Theroux says. He suspects Tate was ultimately nervous. “I suppose I should be flattered that he didn’t, in a weird way.”

Instead, he tails HSTikkyTokky (real name Harrison Sullivan), Ed Matthews, Sneako (Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy), as well as podcasters Myron Gaines and Justin Waller. They are proponents of “red pilling”, a term borrowed from The Matrix, claiming to “see the truth for what it is” (eg feminism is evil; a secret cabal runs the world, etc). There’s a segment in which Gaines tears apart young women on his Fresh and Fit show. “You’re huge, you’re not attractive and for you to behave in the way you do is a fucking embarrassment to society,” he tells one. “You fat fucking bitch, get the fuck out of my studio.”

M0nica Wed 18-Mar-26 22:15:33

FranP

Iam64# "Pornography was not ‘everywhere’ in the seventies."

Working in a govt office in the late 70s, it was normal to see calendars with partly clothed women on the walls.

Partly clothed women are not pornography.

Allira Wed 18-Mar-26 22:17:17

M0nica

FranP

Iam64# "Pornography was not ‘everywhere’ in the seventies."

Working in a govt office in the late 70s, it was normal to see calendars with partly clothed women on the walls.

Partly clothed women are not pornography.

And I'm very surprised they were displayed in Government (or Local Government) offices.

Galaxy Thu 19-Mar-26 07:38:43

Where as now we have made such amazing progress that an Mp had to resign for watching porn in the H of C, it almost makes me nostalgic for the calender days.

butterandjam Thu 19-Mar-26 08:00:09

FranP

Iam64# "Pornography was not ‘everywhere’ in the seventies."

Working in a govt office in the late 70s, it was normal to see calendars with partly clothed women on the walls.

Iam 64 was responding to a poster who claimed pornography was everywhere including UK newspapers and TV in the 1970's ( she knew because she'd seen it).

Very clearly, she had confused nudity with pornography.

Iam64 Thu 19-Mar-26 08:00:23

Galaxy 🙈

One high security mental health facility in the late seventies had those calendars in the (male) nurses office. The paedophile inmates had images of children cut from mothercare catalogues on the panels round their beds. The nurses were very cross when two young feminist students suggested the wall decorations needed removing

Galaxy Thu 19-Mar-26 08:04:26

I value your posts so much Iam64 but crikey sometimes they are depressing reading!

butterandjam Thu 19-Mar-26 08:27:47

FranP

Iam64# "Pornography was not ‘everywhere’ in the seventies."

Working in a govt office in the late 70s, it was normal to see calendars with partly clothed women on the walls.

DH worked in a very small department of 2, and in their shared office colleague Alastair put up a 12 page porn calendar featuring rape fantasy.
Each page showed a half naked battered and distressed women whose clothes had been ripped off

They had female cleaners, female business visitors, our little boys sometimes went to their dad's office and so did I. DH told the guy to take down his vile calendar and he refused.

When Alastair turned over Miss January, he discovered that Miss February ( and all the others) had all learned to speak and had all been raped by Alastair. In speech bubbles they were all exchanging explicit comments on Alastair; his pathetic penis size, erectile dysfunction, sexual tastes, disgusting sores etc.

DH recognised the handwriting...

M0nica Thu 19-Mar-26 09:27:18

Allira

M0nica

FranP

Iam64# "Pornography was not ‘everywhere’ in the seventies."

Working in a govt office in the late 70s, it was normal to see calendars with partly clothed women on the walls.

Partly clothed women are not pornography.

And I'm very surprised they were displayed in Government (or Local Government) offices.

Oh, yes, I saw plenty in Oxfordshire County Council offices in the 1980s. It was the department responsible for maintaining building services in council buildings. Every engineer seemed to have at least half a dozen stuck to the wall of his cubicle. Of course this was in back offices, not the public areas.

Allira Thu 19-Mar-26 10:17:26

M0nica

Allira

M0nica

FranP

Iam64# "Pornography was not ‘everywhere’ in the seventies."

Working in a govt office in the late 70s, it was normal to see calendars with partly clothed women on the walls.

Partly clothed women are not pornography.

And I'm very surprised they were displayed in Government (or Local Government) offices.

Oh, yes, I saw plenty in Oxfordshire County Council offices in the 1980s. It was the department responsible for maintaining building services in council buildings. Every engineer seemed to have at least half a dozen stuck to the wall of his cubicle. Of course this was in back offices, not the public areas.

Perhaps they hid them in their desk drawer where I worked, M0nica.
Certainly, one of the men in the LG office where I first worked was a predatory sleaze ball but I dealt with him quite efficiently!

M0nica Thu 19-Mar-26 12:46:10

Allira One job I had early on, on the first day, two of the clerical staff took me to one side and warned me about one of the men in the department. 'If he comes into the office when you are alone, stand up and keep moving.

However, I gave him his comeuppance. My manger signed off all the expense claims. My job was to check them before submitting them to him. I was looking at one of this sleazeballs expenses one day and some of the figures looked inflated, so I ueried them. My manager took this up with him and he had to re-submit considerably lower figures, and of course make sure they were not inflated therafter because I would be checking them. He never came near me again.

Iam64 Thu 19-Mar-26 13:00:42

It’s interesting how many of us were warned to avoid the known office groper

Cumbrianmale56 Sun 22-Mar-26 10:49:58

I do remember training a young man at work 20 years ago and he flipped out his mobile phone and started looking at porn. OK it was nothing hard core, but I told him he could be in serious trouble if a manager or a woman saw the phone. He was later sacked, but this was for poor attendance and answering back callers on the phone. Never liked the guy as he was aggressive, misogynistic and lazy.