Harry and Meghan. UK Visit.

And my very snobbish view on Meghan is that she showed her lack of class and even as an actor, couldn't hide her lack of grace. She showed disrespect to her inlaws (regardless of their status) by criticising them before really getting to know them, by rejecting mentors etc....and she had to learn how to use a knife and fork correctly/standard UK way.
She was ashamed of her family but now they are probably ashamed of her (or possibly laughing at her!)

MarieElla

He is a foolish man and that's being kind.

I doubt they're planning to educate their children here?
Why would they?
They're not bound by royal family traditions any more.

Sibling rivalry happens in almost all families, the first born does often get the advantages but Harry was hardly a pauper he could have gone on to a very comfortable life in or out of the limelight. Instead he married a feminist anti monarchist nightmare who is only interested in self publicity and destroying the royal family.

If the Australia visit is an example, their return to the UK is going to be maximum embarrassment for the RF, then write a book or even make a dramatized Netflix series based on it.

If it was my family it would be no contact, stay away.

Its no good saying they should be nice to each other because they are 'family'. Family fights are worse. Vendettas anyone?

William and Catherine should keep their distance from that Californian connection who should never be trusted.

Just a little personal thought; The sight of Peter Phillips with his beautiful, sophisticated English bride in the King's carriage at Ascot, must have galled!

As I said much earlier in this thread the photographs of the whole panoply of Royal events this spring, wedding, garter ceremony, Royal Ascot et al must have sent them into a realisation of what they gave up.
Galling is a good word.

There’s no way back for them. All bridges well and truly burnt. The King will probably soften and who can blame him but William?
I would bet Hell will freeze over before that happens.

I hope the King can see his GC in private but no public appearance or photographs published of the event.
I think I read the late Queen met her GGd once but would not allow a photograph.
It is just publicity for them and their commercial undertakings.

A foreigner does not need to be bound by Royal or British traditions in order to not want their children educated in the US. Canada is also an English speaking nation that would suffice. US primary education is a shame. Why would anyone want their children to start education there ?

Meghan had to learn how to use a knife and fork correctly, the standard UK way? That is blatantly a racist comment. How would your fingers perform correctly at a Sri Lankan supper?

I presume Prince Harry is intending for the children to be educated in England

I doubt it matters where Harry expects or wants the children to be educated. It will be Meghan’s choice, I’m sure.

The children are 7 and 5, I assume they already attend school over there.

They start at 6 in California but there's lots of homeschooling and home educators there.

Meghan had to learn how to use a knife and fork correctly, the standard UK way? That is blatantly a racist comment.

It is not racist. It is simply snobbish.

With all the bad public opinion about their parents, the Sussex kids will have a hard time at any English public school where Traditions are respected and bullying par for the course.

Unless their are parent are fully reconciled, not a good option.

Macaydia

Meghan had to learn how to use a knife and fork correctly, the standard UK way? That is blatantly a racist comment. How would your fingers perform correctly at a Sri Lankan supper?

How would your fingers perform correctly at a Sri Lankan supper? Presumably correctly once the poster had been shown the accepted/usual way. If it was me I'd be happy to learn and fit in. When I'm with my Canadian family I usually adopt their way of using cutlery, especially when dining out.

Just because Meghan is mixed race does not make any criticism of her racist.

I have eaten food in India correctly , after being shown.
And yes, I am snobish, but not racist. Using cuterly the correct way (both British and Irish) shows class and education.

Going on and on about someone you don't know over such trivialities shows neither.
In my opinion, of course.

I stand corrected, the word "racist" popped out of my mouth (fingers) before I thought about it. Using the phrase "correct use of a knife and fork" is not racist at all (I forgot that Meghan is of mixed race). It is naive. Or whatever that word is when you use us-and-them philosophies in order to make the us superior to the them.

MarieElla

I have eaten food in India correctly , after being shown.
And yes, I am snobish, but not racist. Using cuterly the correct way (both British and Irish) shows class and education.

Maybe education shows class. Yes, class is involved in how the food gets from the table to your mouth.

(I imagine a midieval father in robes instructing his toddler, dressed in fur hides, throwing the cutlery.)

Macaydia

I stand corrected, the word "racist" popped out of my mouth (fingers) before I thought about it. Using the phrase "correct use of a knife and fork" is not racist at all (I forgot that Meghan is of mixed race). It is naive. Or whatever that word is when you use us-and-them philosophies in order to make the us superior to the them.

MarieElla. Thank you for the.correction. i believe uneducated is correct.

........Not of you but of Meghan not knowing British cutlery.

Meghan is from a lower class background and it shows, regardless of how she tries to act the opposite ...
I was educated by upper class nuns and snobbery (not abuse because we were from well known families) was most definitely taught. It was wrong!
People should be valued on their own merit but...I know a fake when I see one and Meghan is fake!

David49

With all the bad public opinion about their parents, the Sussex kids will have a hard time at any English public school where Traditions are respected and bullying par for the course.

Unless their are parent are fully reconciled, not a good option.

A fair point David.

Those children must surely be integrated by now into the American nursery or educational system and the culture of American society, uprooting them to one of the typical public schools would be disorientating, to say the least, although an independent private school might be less so.

Whilst I don't for one minute think the children will be educated in the UK I'm sure the private establishments that would be considered are used to pupils from a very wide international background. They would be well able to accommodate Archie and Lilibet, and on top of any overt bullying.

Headline in today's DT:
Meghan plans first UK engagement in six years
Apparently in July "she will join her husband at work ?? in Britain ..........and carry out a visit to a hospital. The couple will undertake meetings and at least one public event together."

Is this true, or is it yet another press release from H &M, eagerly promoted by Hannah Furness , DT's Royal Editor?

If it is true, who on earth has allowed it? They are not working royals and she is not patron of any charities recognised here.

The supposed itinerary was published yesterday and yes, it contained public events with both of them.
I can’t remember what they were.
I am not surprised.

NEWS:
They have accepted Royal accommodation.