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No help, no gift so we are skiing

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SecondhandRose Tue 27-Dec-22 13:44:51

Christmas Day neither adult child offered a finger to help with any aspect of the day. They are both well into their twenties. DH and I didnt bother asking for help as we knew we would be met with resistance. DC didn’t even move their plates or cracker mess off the table. DS gave us each a gift but DD gave us absolutely nothing, I am not looking for expensive gifts, just some flowers or chocs would have been lovely. Both DC live at home and dont pay rent as they are part time students and both have paid jobs too.

DH and I had been discussing giving the DC cash gifts at Christmas amounting to £600 each. Instead we gave them £100 each and we’ll put the £1000 towards a holiday.

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 09:43:08

You must be very rich then SHR if you can afford to pay for everything youreselves without the need to take board money/rent of any kid off these adult kids- as i pay my rent/full council tax (theres no disabled/benefit reduction in council tax here in this new borough) and council have instructed me to ask adult children for help towards it they (council) expect you to- despite youngest being in full time college which the council insist i cant get a reduction on! Plus you were going to gift them £600 each- and yes it does sound like you were making it a complaint about it at beginning of post.🤔

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 09:48:15

And just to note- both my disabled sons are highly amused about this new phrase 'Neuro- diverse' they much prefer to use 'old- school' basic phrase/name for what they suffer from, -say just neurological conditions will do🙄

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 09:49:43

*meant rent of any kind

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 09:55:35

Im a bit confused as to how, even with ADHD or any other issues they can both hold down education and jobs but cant do household tasks though???

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 10:06:15

Yes i often think my youngest has oppositional disorder as well but hes not been officially diagnosed with that.

Ladyleftfieldlover Thu 29-Dec-22 10:07:53

Secondhandrose - I think you must know by now that you are being taken for a ride and it’s probably too late to change things now. Sad but true. My three don’t offer to help, they simply get on with it! Even my little six year granddaughter will ask if she can set the table or help in the kitchen. It’s something they’ve all grown up with. Elder son’s partner got the hoover out on Boxing day, and cleaned the carpet! I can’t remember the exact term, but it’s something about rods and backs.

IrishDancing Thu 29-Dec-22 10:20:21

Lots of judge-y comments and I-wouldn’t-put-up-with-its here. Only parents, and to a lesser extent, grandparents of offspring with ADHD really understand what the OP is coping with. I didn’t think her post was complaining at all, rather making the best of it with a smile.

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 10:23:31

And the phrase "get rid of them" does sound particularly heartless tbh- dont you mean ''help them find alternative accommadation suitable for them now they're older"? How must 'get rid' of them' must seem to these AC is awful- no wonder they dont reciprocate respect or want to give you a gift? It does not seem as though theres much caring/feeling between you as a family.

icanhandthemback Thu 29-Dec-22 10:39:16

Nannan2

And just to note- both my disabled sons are highly amused about this new phrase 'Neuro- diverse' they much prefer to use 'old- school' basic phrase/name for what they suffer from, -say just neurological conditions will do🙄

Well, they may be, but it is the correct term. We used to call the disabled a "spastic" but the term became offensive. It is just the change in language that happens, usually because the terminology is used in an offensive manner but sometimes because those suffering from the condition wish to be addressed thus. Neurotypical allow for a description of normality which isn't quite as offensive to those who don't fit that description therefore Neurodiverse is the opposite or difference. There is a whole new generation who would gasp at your sons being amused.

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 10:43:52

I asked both sons (last christmas) "what part of christmas do you most like?" They said tree/decorations so thats what i put them in charge of.it wasnt perfect but it passed muster.Worked quite well.As i said specific instructions.In 2019 I was very ill and xmas day found them both on phone to siblings asking how to do xmas dinner and with enough specific instructions from the others they muddled through & made a meal between them.

Nannan2 Thu 29-Dec-22 10:54:05

Icanhandthemback- my boys ARE the new generation! (19&24) but think its just a whole recent thing of adopting modern names for something that mostly the media dredge up to use- and actually the medical term 'spastic' is still used in medical world to describe the neurological/ medical condition cerebral palsy- even by their neurologist consultant.

Gabrielle56 Thu 29-Dec-22 11:03:23

I suppose it's a "welcome to modern life" ?! In our early adulthood we worked either at 15/16/18/21 depending on when education finished.no 'gap' years stuffed with self indulgent getting p****every night and doing shrooms or whatever they pop nowadays! We had VSO if not ready for work yet. And we gained valuable life experiences. We got married young! Anything from 16 onwards, either renting living with in-laws if suprise babe in tow, or took our lives in our hands and threw ourselves on the sacrificial altar of "The Mortgage" !!!! Resigning ourselves to the next 25 by ears of doing without so we could enjoy a comfy playtime retirement like ma and pa! Sadly those somewhat tatty round the edges second hand/ hand me down days of fourth hand cars and rented TV with occasional break every 3rd year to cheapo resort/Devon and Cornwall are gone! We've allowed it to happen and spoiled kids don't come home to roost- they never bloody fledge! You HAVE to put yourself first, it's a killer but time is precious after working life and they've got literally decades to sort themselves out as we had, enjoy your skiing WITHOUT guilt!!😁

Gabrielle56 Thu 29-Dec-22 11:04:27

I still use the traditional term for a snooty consultant too (t**t) !!!

icanhandthemback Thu 29-Dec-22 11:11:10

but think its just a whole recent thing of adopting modern names for something that mostly the media dredge up to use

Some of it might be but Neurodiverse is a term used by ASD specialists. As for using the word "spastic", yes in the medical world for damaged/deformed parts of the body it may well be used but you'd be slaughtered for using it to describe a disabled person. Language evolves so maybe that is a lesson for your sons.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 29-Dec-22 11:21:37

Gab56 speak for yourself about not having a gap year in the 60’s.

Gabrielle56 Thu 29-Dec-22 11:23:28

I speak for the majority. I know many who cleared off abroad for a few months but you know all too well that it wasn't the accepted norm it became. Most families neede the money of a working teen in the house, well off? Lucky you!

Tusue Thu 29-Dec-22 13:35:22

Wishing you a FANTASTIC holiday-enjoy it xx

VeeScott Thu 29-Dec-22 14:21:57

From the day of their first job at 16 my 3C payed a sum called rent depending on their pay. I wanted them to understand a pay packet comes with obligations and was not all available for use. Much later the money, that I had banked in their names, was given to them as a lump sum for a Wedding, Masters Degree and Teaching degree. It was much appreciated at a time of great expense.

Norah Thu 29-Dec-22 15:04:34

Apart from help and gifts - we are of the mind to spend before we pass, nothing to save for at advanced age. Just care, imo.

Alioop Thu 29-Dec-22 17:24:37

I wanted to leave school at 17 years old, my mum was fuming, she gave me 2 weeks to get a job or I was going back to school. I got a job and she took half my wages for food and board from my first pay packet. That's the way it was then, you wanted to work and be a grown up so that's what you did.
I had to do housework, my own washing and ironing, etc; no molly coddling for us, you didn't like it you knew where the door was. I'm thankful to her, she made us grow up and look after ourselves.