Schools

I would be banned from GN if I wrote what I really think of your post Grandad.

My grandchildren are at school tomorrow, and then the teachers are meeting on Friday to arrange ‘remote lessons’. The children aren’t going to have a chance to mess about. They’ll have work to do.

Teachers have been planning remote work for weeks, in addition to their normal teaching commitments. Some of the ones I know have stayed after work for training in Microsoft Teams.

I publish worksheets and have been providing them for free in the current situation, to help out ex-colleagues. That's what solidarity is about Grandad - I would have thought you'd understand that as a union person.

I'm zero hours contract, nobody to babysit or even keep an out for my grandson.

I usually work so that he is only alone for 2 hours at most. (Not by choice, I hasten to add)

I'm not sure if I'm vital or not as a support worker. Could do with some support myself!

Well growstuff let's have a look at the motivation of workers outside of the education sector. Two of our companies assignment teams are at present working in large supermarket distribution centres training up staff as replacement fork truck drivers and powered palette truck operators etc.

Tonight one of the team controllers was saying that an HGV driver was unhitching a trailer at the end of an eleven hour shift when one of the warehouse supervisors approached him and asked if he could do one more delivery to one of their quite local supermarkets as the store was completely stripped of most of its stock.

The driver lent back against the vehicle and said "oh God" but then agreed to go although it would be at least two hours more work in the rush hour traffic.

Where in the education profession are we seeing that sort of motivation and spirit tonight,?

Grandad1943 Teachers generaly suffer a high level of communicable diseases because of the close contact they have with children. Usually when they are sneezing/coughing/running a temperature and suffering loads of other symptoms they will struggle into work because they know that if they don't extra responsibility will fall on the shoulders of their over worked colleagues. However the situation now prevents them doing this, so they are self isolating as instructed, and of course the temperature/cough may turn out not to be Covid19, but would you really want them to take a chance on that?
I wish you would realise that teachers have no more desire to skive off than any other members of the work force, and indeed most have far less because of their commitment to both. the children they teach and their colleagues.

'Where in the education profession are we seeing that sort of motivation and spirit tonight,?'
...I can't believe I've just read this.....obviously someone who doesn't have a family member who works in education. Words fail me....

Well at the risk of being isolated /banned or whatever....I’m past caring .

The schools are closed from Friday . If you are a teacher then Whoopee doo. No work but full pay . If you are a teacher with kids at school then double whoopee doo, I’m getting full pay and can look after my own kids .

For the rest of society . Kids off school. Parents in the private sector cannot go to work . Equals no pay .

We’re all in this together ? Don’t make me laugh .

Teachers are keeping schools open and dealing with children in the abscence of their sick colleagues.At the same time they are working to put in place a system that will provide education in some form for children on-line or by other methods. They are also working on how to deal with the children most in need. Secondary teachers are putting together a system for awarding children the academic qualifications they will need. This in a profession which generally works most evenings and weekends doing planning,assessment and marking. I advise you to stop criticising something you obviously know nothing about, you are simply demonstrating your ignorance.

By the way growstuff I am not a "union man", we do work for the Unite and GMB unions by way of tuition to there members in industrial and workplace safety.

My wife and I have owned and operated that business for the last eighteen years.

Interestingly the military have had all leave cancelled in order to help out in this crisis. Maybe teachers should have their 6+ weeks summer holidays cancelled in order to catch up on the teaching missed in April, May, June.

Most teachers spend their summer holidays doing lesson plans.

The schools are all closing on Friday trisher my older DGC (14 and 12) were told not to come in tomorrow . So NO the teachers are not keeping schools open .

Don’t make me laugh Labaik .

Well growstuff, if you wish to engage in personal insults by way of addressing me as "ignorant" I am only too happy to oblige.

However, I would remind you of how that turned out for you in another thread recently. I was hoping in this thread we could engage in a respectful and thoughtful discussion on the education profession in regard to the current health crisis, but perhaps that is not possible.

Anyway, good night for I have to be working in the morning.

Where did I write "ignorant"?

Are you threatening me? It sounds like bullying to me.

By the way, where is your evidence that absenteeism is higher amongst teachers than any other sector?

Strangely enough, many teachers have been working through the night, as well as in the morning, to provide online work for their pupils.

So much for Dunkirk spirit etc etc. The minute something like this happens people turn into vultures. Teachers today. Who will it be tomorrow....? Young blaming the old. Everyone who isn't a teacher blaming teachers. Can you not all see what's happening??

Teachers are being expected to work gillybob. They've been trained in using online platforms and will be expected to set work, provide predicted grades, mark work and write reports, etc.

Perhaps it will be better for this whole nation if we let the teaching profession "skulk off into the night", for at least then we shall not have to put up with their continuous whinging and whining as to their terrible lot.

I think if you were to go onto a school, you'd see that kind of motivation and spirit every single day.

PS. It wasn't me who called you "ignorant" Grandad. However, the threatening nature of your post said a lot about you.

Perhaps it would be better if you skulked off. At least, any teachers reading this wouldn't have to read your nasty, unjustified comments.

Exactly Labaik.

The teachers in my area are not working at all from this evening growstuff

Let’s get this straight . Public sector equals pay. Private sector equals ........?

This is turning into a them and us society , either we are all in it together or we are not.

growstuff quote @22:36 tonight [you are simply demonstrating your ignorance.] End quote

Growstuff quote @22:53 tonight [Where did I write "ignorant"?

Are you threatening me? It sounds like bullying to me.] End quote.

I rest my case.

No gillybob. It's a crisis and we're all in it together and should stop slagging people off.