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Beggars belief

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Jane10 Sun 05-Apr-20 08:24:25

Just read that Catherine Calderwood the Scottish chief medical officer and her family drove to their holiday home in Fife for the weekend.
Apparently it was just to check on the security of the place. Hmmmm.
The only way to resolve that PR disaster would be for her to be charged and fined heavily for making an unnecessary journey just as one of us would have been.

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 14:40:57

paddy there have already been a number of posts on different threads questioning the behaviour of the UK Govt’s CMO. It’s now the turn of Dr Calderwood who has behaved abominably and the SG who have already put out a statement defending her actions.

SpringyChicken Sun 05-Apr-20 14:41:07

I’m sure she does have regrets. She regrets being caught.

SueDonim Sun 05-Apr-20 14:44:15

She’s just apologised on live TV. So that’s okay, then. hmm

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 14:45:41

Can I drive to my late dad’s house in Aberdeenshire to check on it and to finish off clearing it out if I apologise afterwards? confused

Yorksherlass Sun 05-Apr-20 14:45:49

Oh well, she’s very sorry so that makes it all right then , alls forgiven . Not in my book matey .

MissAdventure Sun 05-Apr-20 14:48:50

smile
That phrase made me smile.

Haven't felt at all smiley since this thread, so thanks!

Yorksherlass Sun 05-Apr-20 14:59:00

? you’re welcome, MissAdventure

Anniebach Sun 05-Apr-20 15:04:41

Did she say she went two weekends ?

Yorksherlass Sun 05-Apr-20 15:10:49

She may well be important to Nicola but she can’t possibly be the public face any more, lost all credibility full stop .

Baggs Sun 05-Apr-20 15:17:54

Baggs, the risk to others is always there. We know that people are most infectious before they get any symptoms (if they get symptoms at all). Moving to another area and then perhaps going out, exercising, shopping locally etc. runs the risk of bringing infection to that community. I feel it's so important to lead by example. How can we ever respect those who bend the rules?

This is all good argument, hetty. However, the scenario I outlined was much simpler than one including going out exercising or shopping. It was: house1, own car, house2 and always well away from other people.

Going out exercising and shopping is of course allowed and, once again, the idea seems to be that if people keep a good distance from others they will minimise the risk of infection either way.

So I reall think that the main lesson from Caroline Calderwood's actions is that she wasn't doing what she was advising other people to do. This is why it's problematic.
We do not live in an authoritarian state where we are ordered about so leaders not leading by example means that they lose the confidence of the people they're trying to influence.

Jane10 Sun 05-Apr-20 15:22:59

There are many excellent medical professionals in Scotland. Time to appoint one of them instead of Calderwood.

SueDonim Sun 05-Apr-20 15:27:29

Do come, SirChenjin. We can share a cuppa - at a nice two metre distance. grin

At the briefing journalists mentioned more than one trip to Calderwood’s holiday home. She didn’t deny it, so I’m assuming it’s true.

The thing is, this has taken away attention from the actual crisis and that’s not good. I can’t understand why she hasn’t fallen on her sword, tbh.

Anniebach Sun 05-Apr-20 15:29:06

Families stay away from loved ones funerals and this woman
checks her holiday home twice .

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 15:38:07

I will Sue!

Apologies in advance everyone but I’ve a house that needs checking on and I’ve been working awfy hard these last couple of weeks so I need a wee break.

Sparklefizz Sun 05-Apr-20 15:38:41

Yes Annie Families stay away from loved ones funerals and this woman checks her holiday home twice

A friend's sister-in-law had to attend her husband's funeral 2 days ago on her own. There were no other mourners and she had to walk into the crematorium, stand there while a few words were said, and then go home by herself shock

And then there are these selfish idiots like Calderwood and many others ..... words fail me!!!!

suziewoozie Sun 05-Apr-20 15:59:57

NS should have used the Perrier solution - anyone remember that? She should have been stood down immediately and transferred to hospital duties. By not doing so she’s allowing the whole saga to carry on - bad call NS

suziewoozie Sun 05-Apr-20 16:18:45

I think she’ll resign - it’s not going to go away is it?

Greeneyedgirl Sun 05-Apr-20 16:51:31

She had the cheek to go twice apparently. ?

Riverwalk Sun 05-Apr-20 17:00:40

I'd be very surprised if she hasn't resigned by the end of the day.

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 17:03:32

I think she’ll stay until the worst of this is over and then Nicola will request her resignation.

Riverwalk Sun 05-Apr-20 17:03:36

I caught just the last few minutes of the latest briefing from Downing Street - the last questioner asked Jennie Harries if she had a second home and has she visited it in the past weeks; Hancock called an end to the meeting before she could reply!

MissAdventure Sun 05-Apr-20 17:07:23

I think it's going to get swept neatly under the carpet.

Jane10 Sun 05-Apr-20 17:12:11

It better not be. Has the woman no shame? She should resign at once and scurry off to hide in one of her homes. What an embarrassment for Scotland and her family.

Chewbacca Sun 05-Apr-20 17:18:06

It's her family who will suffer for her decision the most Jane10 and I agree with Marydoll that that would be most unfair. Her children would have had no say in the decision make the journey but they'll be the subject of much ridicule and derision by their friends and peers. And that's really unfair.

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 17:28:41

Perhaps Dr Calderwood should have considered her children before they visited their second home on two occasions? Her children are older (older teens from the photos) so if they’re like other teenagers they’d have had plenty to say in whether they went or not - it was obviously seen by the whole family as perfectly ok.