Excuses

So you think in means in Gaga.....I ask because so do I.

If you go out and see one other person, that’s because hundreds of others are putting the time in, at home. Unlike you
No, if it was early in the morning many were still in bed
And if I go for a walk with Hattie and don’t see a soul it’s because I live in the country
I am making no excuse for barbecues for 50 people (never seen one of these) or for the idiots out in groups, but enough of this “you can walk your dog inside” baloney.
Pots and kettles. Some of us did not choose to fly home from a part of the world just over the border from a country in complete lockdown
Viruses are no respecters of national frontiers.

I do. In. No exceptions. If you’re lucky enough to have a garden, great! We don’t, so I’m not speaking from a privileged position.

But otherwise, Spanish or Italian level of lockdown. Shortest way out of the dystopian hell we are living through.

Is it because you are self isolating yourself Gaga that you have such a problem with this?

You just can't help yourself can you? Even now.

No. You’re right Maw, I did. Long before any flights were stopped or any lockdown. Because I had nowhere in that country to live.

At least I didn’t cost the UK anything in repatriation. You’d have complained about that, if I had.

Are flights “essential travel”? GagaJo

Crossed posts......

Are we not doing " be kind" anymore? Is that just for some people?

I'd like to see the authorities coming down on those who break the rules like a ton of bricks as a first step Eglantine. On the spot fines even for first offenders for anyone aged 18 and over. Not per house hold but per person.

If we end up with a total lock down so be it but I do think the selfish idiots should be targeted first before we are all made to suffer.

I agree with that point, Smileless. As a start.

Please stop stirring Greymar !
I was asking a genuine question of Gaga and I do feel sympathy for the household, particularly the little grandson who brings Gaga his shoes, and sits in his pushchair.I wondered if the situation is getting on top of her, and understand totally if it is.

I do. In. No exceptions. If you’re lucky enough to have a garden, great! We don’t, so I’m not speaking from a privileged position.

Do look at the link I posted GagaJo. It shows the leaflet with the rules in it. The only people who should not be going out at all are those who are "... at very high risk due to a serious underlying condition".

If you do not believe this to be true could you read the leaflet shown in the video and tell us why not. Otherwise, you are simply misinterpreting the rules and then trying to inflict your wrongly formed opinion on others.

We can’t trust what the government say. We need self preservation. Common sense

Perfectly ok for you to make your own rules Gagajo. Our garden borders open fields, we get the odd pheasant and yesterday a lapwing passed by. No humans. So if its okay with you, I'll use my own common sense that has served me well all my life, and wait for this afternoon's briefing.

Repatriation is the thing I can't live with !

620 infected people alighted from a cruise ship in Sydney some of those are Brits---and guess what ? They're flying home, unless they're already here under a cloak of darkness.

We can’t trust what the government say. We need self preservation. Common sense.

I had missed this. That explains it. I am sorry GagaJo but, although you are perfectly reasonably setting your own rules over and above the Government ones. However, it is beyond reason to expect people to a) know what your rules are and b) think they have to follow your rules.

There is no point in trying to have a discussion if that is what you believe.

30 infected people have returned to Wuhan from other countries. Just to start off the whole process again ?

There still remains to be 5 cruise ships at sea waiting to be emptied of passengers. The damn virus is never going to go away at this rate.

Well, thanks for setting that goalpost GGMK3. I wasn't aware someone had made you a moderator.

The POINT is, a total lockdown HAS been suggested. And there is ongoing discussion on the site about those that disagree with it.

The reason that total lockdown has put forward as a possible essential is because so many people seem to think they are the exception. Which is where this thread started.

It's where we're going to end up. And there will be hue and cry on here about how it's due to selfish people. There was the same discussion around bl**dy hairdressers on here a few weeks ago.

I expect the infected people will be put into isolation Ellan
And/or tested as well.

It would seem sensible lemongrove and I expect the Chinese authorities will put them in isolation. One advantage of an authoritarian regime is that nobody listens to cries about individual rights, however much people might complain about having their liberty taken away.

No one has made me "moderator" as you put it GagaJo but even in your world, where you make up the rules and then insist others stick to them, you must realise that I, as one person making up their own mind, can decide there is no logic in your argument and that I don't want to be part of it. Unlike you, at no time did I tell anyone else what to do.

It looks like its a moot point anyway GGMK3. Seems thats where the government is taking us next, whether you agree or not.

What is a "moot point" GagaJo? I have mastered mind-reading.

There's a difference between going to a hairdresser and having a walk. AFAIK hair can't be styled from two metres away. I still maintain haircuts/colouring and eyebrow treatments aren't essential anyway.

I haven't left my small house for three weeks and haven't been in contact with any other living person. I have treated everything that's come through my letterbox with extreme caution, so I'm as sure as I possibly could be, that I'm not infected.

I really will have to go out for some essential grocery shopping in the next few days, so I 've tried to assess from local Facebook groups when the best time would be.

I've had a couple of meltdowns, but it hasn't been that difficult. HOWEVER, I don't have a dog or lively toddlers stuck in a flat/house without a garden. I don't think a walk for the sake of it is absolutely essential, but I don't know what I would do with a dog/small children.

My bet would be on a stricter lockdown being imposed within days. Additionally, I'd like to see everybody arriving in the country subject to much stricter checks.