Neighbours Behaving Badly

But it is different Chardy! This is how the others see it who break rules,but it IS different.maybe she should have moved in with mum before we got lockdown.what we need is a Real lockdown like Italy!

Call the police.

So...you would do WHAT if you lived in a small flat with no outside space, the garden out of bounds, the garden seat outside the front door out of bounds with tape around it …..you would obvious stay in your tiny flat ...no one to get shopping, no one to communicate with ……..or WOULD YOU …..we can all complain about everyone else and what they do ...you do not know their circumstances and NO ONE knows who has had the virus, who is incubating as you can be asymptomatic for days before you suddenly get struck down …..care workers have inadequate PPE but are still expected to call or their elderly patients have no one at all ….judge not least ye be judged....

I go out once a day by car to my allotment to water the vegetables and take my dog for a walk around the perimeter avoiding contact with other users. Don't want to flout the rules but dog needs exercise and the exercise and fresh air do us both good. Its about 1 mile away and safer to use the car than walking. If this is wrong, please let me know, many thanks

I think my neighbours probably talk or comment about me too. I live over the road to out local hospital and I have my daughter (8 months pregnant) her 4 year old and her husband arrive on my drive daily. Her husband is undergoing radiotherapy daily and she can’t go into the hospital with him or take my DGS. He can’t drive due to the brain tumour so she has to be taxi. We do not have a coffee or socialise but I let them in the house for an hour and a half. They go straight to DGS bedroom where he plays with his toys. They are both so careful to touch nothing. No kiss or hug. If he uses the bathroom it gets a good wipe down with anti bac wipes after he has gone.
When she goes into labour I will have to have her husband and son here as he has up to 20 seizures a day and has lost his hearing as well as his hair due to this treatment. He has already had brain surgery and will be stating another 7 months of cheamo after this.
I am working from home and haven’t left my house for over 3 weeks. Sometimes circumstances dictate necessary risks even if it looks like a family visit.

I just don't know what it will take before people realise the danger they're putting themselves and others in.
Why do they think they can act and just carry on with no consideration or responsibility?? SO angry.

I know that we are only supposed to go shopping once a week, but I do a cryptic crossword every weekday to keep my mind active; I can only get a paper from the supermarket so go every day.
Not everyone gets their paper delivered, if at all at the moment, our local newsagent is closed because of the restrictions.

Thanks for your advise Gagajo,
Children live in Scotland, North Wales, Bristol and Berlin, so its hard for them to help considering travel restrictions.!!
As for Face book, personal choice really, and I choose not to join either. Every body always has an answer, before they have the full information, just commenting on the fact that following government guidelines is not as easy as first thought, we live in a street where in our late 60's makes us the youngest, so we should be helping our neighbours.

If they carry on in the current circumstances never mind normal tomes think the landlord being informed is essential. I reported a neighbour for amongst other activities trampolining at 11pm, smoking at my window and having a dog (latter two were not allowed in tenancy) and they were booted out.

I live in a rural area and my son farms. He is a couple of mile off the nearest village down a track off a country lane. He has a public footpath runs down one of his fields. Normally this path is rarely used NOW there are more people than ever they have been handling gates, touching stiles etc. Taking group photos. He knows many of them and they are not from the same household! Lambing is in full swing at the moment and he is bringing sheep in and taking sheep and lambs out so is concerned re the handling of the gates etc.

I have mentioned this before about a family down the road who are flouting the rules. The daughter-in-law who has MS and only one kidney which is been investigated as it has black spots on it; she wouldn't stay in anyway but fell last week and broke her wrist. She's been to the hospital today (even though they wouldn't allow her husband into the department) she still went shopping on her way home!! Two shops including the pet shop would only allow one member of the family in. She got aggressive and said how was she supposed to carry pet food with one hand!!"! It's just unbelievable.

Meant to say that I do it over the phone with my brother in law who lives alone in Hampshire, I live in the Highlands.
It gives us someone to talk to in these times of isolation.
it is the only social interaction that I get, I don't go out to meet people and it angers me that people flout the regulations at the weekends and when the weather is good.

Goodness PammyHoops what an incredibly stressful time for you all.

As you say, what may look like a total disregard for the rules isn't necessarily the case and you are all clearly doing your best in very difficult circumstances.

Best wishes for your D and s.i.l. and congratulations on soon becoming a GM again.

I do wonder what our neighbours might be saying about us if they were on here. My husband has had to go round to his mother’s house multiple times a day over the past two weeks, so is constantly to be seen going in and out of the house. His mum has vascular dementia and has been very poorly with a UTI over the last couple of weeks. He has always promised her she would never have to go into a home and she has Carers four times a day. He has been sitting with her for hours at a time, putting drops of water into her mouth over the period of several days where she couldn’t even drink. It is allowed to go out to care for the vulnerable, but still feels wrong him coming and going all the time. I haven’t visited her as I think she has so many folk coming to the house already and I don’t want to add to the risk unnecessarily.

Thank you smileless2012

Worrying and difficult times on so many levels.

We all just have to do our best and trust that we will get through.

It makes my blood boil when I see people blatantly abusing the rules thinking they are somehow immune and entitled. I would say most are young, probably think if they get it, it will be mild. Read the papers, watch the news. Young people are dying and morons like those flouting the rules could be carrying the virus. I am 73 with diabetes, live alone and have been self isolating for over 3 weeks. My family stay away other than drop off food for me and chat through the window. I miss my grandchildren so much but I want to be around a bit longer. It’s lonely but the alternative is frightening.

For those of you going on about flouting the rules and going to the supermarket more than once a week, can I just comment that I don’t have a freezer, so as such cannot stock up on food so have to shop more than once a week. In addition to that I’m volunteering with the local council and am currently looking after 10 people at the moment, doing their shopping, getting their prescriptions and walking one or two dogs. One of my neighbours reported me for leaving the house more than once a day in my car and I had the police at my door step. I had to show the Constable my council registered essential worker permit to prove my valid actions. He apologised profusely and then went round to complain to the neighbour that had reported me. Can you guys think clearly about why SOME people might be out more than others. Stop your bloody curtain/neighbour snitching and concentrate on a hobby or something more constructive.

Nothing wrong with having a moan.

My neighbour just told me she "had to take food over" to her daughter and granddaughter as they had no money. (Quite usual; both healthy)

Ten miles on the bus, and neighbour has copd.

nicula97 my FIL is the same concerning a private footpath,and they are not allowed to close them!

He very politely asked one of them to keep his dog on a lead,as he was in his rights to shoot it if he was worrying the sheep.
His reply was yea and I’d come and f***ing shoot you!!

It does make me very cross seeing people go out walking in groups by our house, I am self isolating where I am safe. But you can’t get the message across to some idiots, it’s not just the young, all ages are doing this.

I am getting angry now. Report them for goodness sake.
If you had witnessed my lovely neighbour arriving home from another 12 hour shift at the maternity unit and desperate that they had lost a mum, saved the baby, then you would ALL wake up that this extremely serious. She is desperate not to bring infection home to her 2 boys . They are short staffed so do not have enough time to clean things down effectively; mums cannot have gas an air ; there’s not enough equipment and some if you are bothered that you cannot have a barbecue with your extended family. Get real. If people don’t stop meeting then we will be confined to barracks. Rant over !

@Niucla97. I totally get what you’re saying about the rural community being abused by people at the moment. I have 150 acres of my own private land and my husband and I yesterday decided to have a BBQ and relax and listen to the wildlife around us. Unbelievably, a dog approached us out of nowhere, followed by its owners ........ we were then challenged by these people invading our own land why we were out clearly flouting the government rules by having a BBQ. We had to threaten to call the police to get these individuals off our land. They shouted and threatened us and told us we were selfish and should open up our land to dog walkers. I stress again that we do live in a very rural area so there is already plenty of scope for dog walking. I truly feel so sorry for farmers, as people just think any old piece of land is open to them just because the forests and parks have had to close through huge numbers. I’m also sorry for others not to have my luck or fortune of being able to wander in a huge space, but PLEASE be mindful of not invading other people’s land.

I visit with family outdoors every day. Each househod maintains their own space.
We sit apart,
double or triple the recommended distance and chat. We bring our own drinks and food and don't go into eachother's houses.
I reported people on the street and in parks who didn't maintain their distance.

I think it is really important not to immediately conclude that if someone APPEARS to be not following the rules that that is actually the case. Their circumstances/ essential role/permitted voluntary role may mean that they have to do what they are doing.

We need to see the better in people until we know the less better!!

I apologise Nannan2 I didn’t mean to upset you and had not realised the son who drove you to go shopping or to the hospital still lives at home. I do know about weekly blood testing as Paw would have one everyThursday and then usually one or two units of blood the next day.
As for the cardboard - there is always a way round this and food containers can usually be squashed flat (or Stanley knifed) to make it take up the minimum space.
I am shocked at the amount of cardboard generated, especially by internet shopping and while it can be recycled I am sure we did not use nearly as much even a few years ago!

Hope nobody reports us. We have a spare fridge freezer in our garage which we’ve given over to our daughter and her family. We have been fortunate enough to get a couple of online orders recently. She only has a tiny box freezer on top of her fridge. She has been coming twice a week for provisions. We open our garage gates and door to the garage so she is only touching the fridge freezer. We chat across the garden for 10 minutes before she heads off. No other person accompanies her. Surely this is safer than her visiting a supermarket.