I think the doctors should just have told him that was a wonderful idea ... and offered for him to be the first to have the treatment in thanks for his great insight and as a show of his great leadership!!!
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(158 Posts)US President Donald Trump has been lambasted by the medical community after suggesting research into whether coronavirus might be treated by injecting disinfectant into the body.
He also appeared to propose irradiating patients' bodies with UV light, an idea dismissed by a doctor at the briefing.
Another of his officials had moments earlier said sunlight and disinfectant were known to kill the infection.
Mr Trump's own public health agencies (unsurprisingly) warn against bleach as a medicine.
Trump: one can only hope that the voters in the US will come to their senses in November. But what if he decides to cancel elections because of Covid19? What's the betting?
And by the way, my Scottish brother-in-law says that what most annoys the Scots about the English is that the English can't be bothered to hate the Scots back.
I wish he'd use himself as the first guinea pig! I have a blood blister on my arm, it's ugly, distended, red and bulging. I called it 'Donald'.
The most depressing thing is that I bet he is re-elected!
There are so many theories being touted about prevention or cure. The latest one I read suggested that people under thirty might be protected by having had the MMR vaccine. It occurred to me that most people of our generation would have developed immunity to measles, mumps and rubella by catching those common infections as children! (I remember the misery of lying in a darkened room with measles, which is on the increase because many parents are shunning the MMR vaccine through flawed information.) I don't think I ever had mumps, but my sister did, so maybe I was asymptomatic. She had a horrible case of chicken pox but I had three spots, no other symptoms and a fortnight off school! Woo hoo! I nursed my two older children through mumps. So, are we protected by our continued immunity to those infections? I doubt it. Our older children had the vaccination as a catch up in their teens but my daughter is pretty sure she's had the Covid virus. Her husband went to the Cheltenham Festival and was ill days later. Bad decision, with hindsight...
Farnorth, Flanders and Swann were poking fun at English attitudes and ridiculing them, not making a claim to any sense of pride, I assure you. I find nationalism of any kind ridiculous.
I’ve got a tin of Jeyes fluid in the garage, I use it for the drains, but if President Trump thinks a dose of this will help well, who am I to argue....... the man is a moron.
Marydoll Two of my grandchildren are American citizens hence my interest.
There are enough Scots on here to make their own protests.
I don't personally know Brunette10 in the same way as I don't know any posters on here on a personal level. I can only react to what is written down.
Curlywhirly just because others are derided does not make it right.
I am as appalled by Trump's pronouncements as everyone else make no mistake about that.
That's enough from me on this thread I will shut up now.
I often wonder how the press at these meetings don't just fall about laughing at the absolute drivel that comes out of Trump's mouth. The man should be sectioned.
I hate Donald Trump as much as the next rational person and in the press briefing I saw, he said that it was a shame that disinfectant could be injected into the body and clean the body out.
Still a moronic thing to say, but immediately reported as him saying that it could be treated this way.
Having a stupid president is a big problem but they are easier to remove that a billionaire owned press that no longer fact checks quotes and in the long run no less damaging.
That should be 'shame that disinfectant could NOT be injected in the body... '
I have to agree with Brunette10.
I think the people around him are either that stupid or afraid of him, after all he is a bully.
Please tell me that
^"Yet more leftist drivel.
Politics shouldn't be allowed on here.
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is a joke and not what you really believe.
The man has just suggested injecting disinfectant.
I had read that people in either Iraq or Iran had been drinking bleach as a cure. I can’t quite believe that the president of America could say this. On the other hand, when I’m disinfecting all of my shopping I had wondered about having some sort of uv light machine that I could scan everything with. Perhaps I’ve been in lockdown too long.
Iam64
Absolutely agree with that.
Blzzle, you asked why Boris Johnson keeps making conversation with Trump even resting , for years the uk followed the American s tail , just like the Kuwait and Iraq war. Only hope to god he does not jump when Trump asks him to
I was sent a copy of an email doing the rounds repeating an article by a man named ?O’Reilly.
He says he follows everything to do with politics everyday and thinks Trump is the most intelligent man in the world today.
Everything he is doing is calculated to send a message and a warning to China and its leaders.
He believes they released it deliberately to bring the world to its knees and destroy the worldwide economy.
The Chinese dead are small beer compared to the size of their population and were expendable.
Nancy Pelosi is the devil in disguise and the most evil woman alive who will get us all killed.
Delusional? Trump or O’Reilly?
I instantly deleted it.
I do wonder about him sometimes, wether he seriously has no filter at all or if he is suffering some mental issues,
Also I would have thought that his press speeches would have been written for him or at least vetted
maybe Boris will tell him how awful the illness is if he does speak to him, the seriousness might get through to him, maybe. Back in the 18th century we had a king who suffered from mental illness, and was deputized for, if that could happen then back in those days it could happen now, but would the regent be any better?
I heard Mr. Trump talking about his light treatment this morning but his ideas about disinfectant injections is dangerous and frightening, what planet is he living on? I do hope that himself and the lovely wife Milenia will be first for the trials.
What I found extraordinary was the fact that neither of the experts/scientists with him spoke up to stop him in his tracks when it became apparent he was spouting nonsense.
Most US citizens of course will have the sense to ignore what he said, but a few may think it’s worth a try.
Does no-one in America have a gun??
MawB It's so awful that he actually has people who believe in him and could be, indeed have been, influenced to follow his ideas.
I have wondered if his age is catching up with him. Although he has strong and enduring personality traits that make him speak before thinking and believe he is always right, so that might account for it.
I looked into South Korea's approach with has led to such remarkably lower deaths that you'd think the rest of the world would want to follow their methods to deal with it. As well as wide scale testing, they use hydroxychloroquine.
In a quick search for concise information I found:
www.fortunecryptonews.com/2020/03/is-chloroquine-behind-south-koreas-super-low-coronavirus-fatality-rate/
"Which Countries are Using Chloroquine?
Several countries, including China, South Korea and Belgium, have added chloroquine to their treatment guidelines for Covid-19. The drug is not officially approved as a treatment for this indication.
It’s interesting to note that South Korea reports a remarkably low coronavirus death rate with just 120 of their 9,037 confirmed cases ending in death.
Korea reports a 1.3% case fatality rate compared to 9.5% in Italy and 1.26% in the United States. It’s unclear if South Korea’s low death rate can be attributed to chloroquine, but it doesn’t seem to be hurting them.
Many American doctors are convinced that the drug can help patients suffering from Covid-19. Off-label prescriptions are soaring, and New York state has already procured 70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine and 750,000 doses of chloroquine with plans to begin trials on Tuesday.
This article was edited by Sam Bourgi."
I still have access to a medical library and recent research papers, and, a couple of weeks ago looked at chloroquine in its clinical use. I believe (my own opinion, but once I mentioned it so many of my previous Colleagues said they were sure it is so) that it is being downplayed in the West because Big Pharma and Bill Gates, who practically own the WHO, want to create their vaccine and sell it for enormous profit. Gates wants everyone in the world vaccinated. He will own the vaccine and every time it is used he will get paid, just as he owns the rights to the way our computers work and gets paid for every computer created because he has the "copyright" or whatever it is called on the way computers start up. I may not have got the technical detail correct (he bought the original DOS ) but the result is the same. If he owns the vaccine "copyright" (I can't think of the proper word!) you can be sure that after 3 or so years, the whole world will need another vaccine of his, because the first one will have become out of date and so on, like the computers.
Bill Gates is not a philanthropist, do not be misled. He is so rich it is unbelievable, he just bought another residence: The Observer 04/23/20; "paid a staggering $43 million for a six-bedroom mansion in Del Mar, near San Diego."
For an easy to follow analysis of Bill Gates, a highly intelligent Scientist has independently made a short talk:
cdn1.richplanet.net/downloads/Richplanet_Show_282_The_Corona_Scam.mp4
Hydroxychloroquine is an old and cheap drug which does not make Big Pharma and Bill Gates rich but may alleviate some of the problems or even be more effective in novel Corona Virus. Like every drug, it has some side effects and a few people are more affected than others. Again, in the West, (especially a woman in France who receives vast amounts in salary and funding from Big Pharma,) they are publicly exaggerating these side effects which are no more than most drugs we are all given.
If I had CV19 and were offered Hydroxychloroquine I would give it a go. But only the Clinical dose! No weird stuff! And definitely no sun beds or bleach or whatever!!
It's horrific to think that Trump, the man who has the most power in the world actually tells people such things as injecting disinfectant. Horrific doesn't really touch it, does it?
But then, if the USA can have Trump, who are we to think that our Government have all the answers?
Yes that surprised me too JenniferE but apparently “Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what." So perhaps we should all have more respect for him!! ? ?
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