Kinder to leave elderly people with coronavirus in care homes?

We also need to make sure proper protection is available for all staff.

I understand that there is a difference between a Care Home and a Nursing Home, the names being self-explanatory.

People die in care homes.
It's no different from someone dying in their family home, and it's often what their relatives prefer.

Is there any evidence terminal care alleviates the suffering of drowning in one's own ling secretions?

Yes. There is medication to dry sectetions and morphine to help with palliative covid pain. They do not "drown" if having palliative care. A palliative nurse can visit care homes and set up a syringe driver with both so carers dont have to administer it.

There shouldn't be a total ban on people being admitted to hospital from care homes.
There isnt

Sending people for hospital treatment delays palliative care and makes it more likely that they'll have a horrible "drowning" death somewhere alien and scary with uncomfortable wires and needles

It has to A. be worth it (a chance it'll work for them) and B. be what they would have wanted.

If the hospital makes them palliative after admission they might never make it back home. They might die waiting on a bright noisy acute ward surrounded by strangers, or die in transit.

I notice we have been deafened by the silence from the CQC over Care Home issues.

MissAdventure Of course there are some excellent Care Homes and staff as we have seen recently. However the caring role is not sufficiently valued by Governments or the public. Older people and those with disabilities are not seen as being important groups in our society. Perceptions need to change. I was manager of a Care Home, Respite Unit and Community Team for many years so I do gave some insights.

You're spot on, there, sodapop, although I would say elderly care is by far the least sufficient.

I notice we have been deafened by the silence from the CQC over Care Home issues.

Yes.

They have proven that they were never doing what they should have been doing all along.

Things slipped into a state of poor practice and under preparedness under their watch and where is their guidance now?

Older people and those with disabilities are not seen as being important groups in our society.

Agree.

As I said upthread, infectious diseases that rip through that community every year.

Would people care so much about the nursing home Covid deaths if Covid wasnt something that threatens us all?

Thanks, Notanan.
"There is medication to dry sectetions and morphine to help with palliative covid pain."

Notanan, it's Labour policy to provide adequate welfare for all. Until Labour supplants the hypocritical and inefficient present government right thinking people will have to raise our voices to support the cause of fully funded nationalised care homes/ medical care after the pandemic seems less urgent.

By 'right thinking' people I assume you mean people like you?
That is one phrase that really infuriates me and instantly makes me disagree with whatever they are saying!

Jane10 It's a phrase which annoys me too, but I do think that it would "right" for a thorough review in the future of the way care homes operate and are funded. Even in "normal" times, they don't do some people many favours. It's going to be a political hot potato, which is why successive governments have avoided it for so long, but the current crisis has really shown up some massive holes in the whole social care system.

omitted word … be "right"

It's clear that care of the elderly needs to be reviewed and some actual decisions taken. This crisis has highlighted some of the problems. Maybe it'll be a catalyst but 'a hae ma doots'. Good care costs a lot more than most local authorities, individuals and governments are willing to pay.