So angry about this witch hunt

oldgimmer so you think we should all have just ignored the stay at home slogan on the podiums...and travelled anywhere we wanted to for any stupid reason.IF he had cv ...IF, the rule was stay at home ,self isolate for 7 days and anyone at home with you should isolate for 14 days .Simple ,surely to understand even for DC.Why else was it the law ..not guidance as he claims

I work with mostly autistic adults, and it has certainly been challenging, but, they have had to abide by the rules; I remind them that the government has put the rules in.

And, we're all managing ok.

I absolutely cannot understand how anyone can be sticking up for this man. He treated us with barely concealed contempt.

And continues to do so, Jane10

Who will rid us of this turbulent spad?

@GrannyGravy13
You circled a section of the rules which said why you could travel to assist someone who is ill, but DC didn't do that. He went to Downing Street when he knew his wife was ill and then he took his ill family to a different location. I find it hard to believe that he doesn’t have childcare arrangements in London. If he had asked his sister or niece to travel to London to help that would have been within the rules.

The stupid thing about it all in my opinion is that a simple acknowledgement of the mistakes he made, together with an apology, and it would all be over by now for many of us.

Were they ill?
Another mystery. First she was, then he was, then she looked after him while he was collapsing...
What a brave, upstanding bloke, to be so concerned that he managed to get in his car during all this, so he could test out his eyesight.

I am so very sick of people constantly bleating about, "he should/could have asked his sister/family in London to help with childcare". And you all know this how? I have a sister; no way in a month of Sundays would I have trusted her with my kids when they were that age. Why should he choose childcare according to what somebody else, somebody who doesn't know him and his kid, decree? Would any of you stand for being told who should look after your kids? Would any of you stand for Social Services swooping in and taking your four year old for a prolonged and indefinite period which might end in him then being shipped off to God knows where because, as we all know, once Social Services are involved, especially if the parents aren't around any longer, anything could happen to the poor little thing?
Of course this is a witch hunt! Why could he drive 260 miles without needing to stop for his little one to have a loo break but he couldn't last just over an hour out on a trip? Err time of day? They travelled up in the late evening, arriving around midnight. Yep, I've had three and they could all have slept 4 or 5 hours travelling by car in the late evening and into the night, that was their normal sleep pattern. During the day they could go to the loo just before we left the house and then need a wee before we got out of the village!
Don't get me wrong, I think going out to test his eyesight by a trial run to Barnard Castle is definitely spurious although, once having decided to do that, if his son is Autistic, it's entirely plausible that he did need to get out for a wee and wouldn't immediately get back into the car, needing a bit of a run around and even maybe dad to get out and encourage him back in.
Whatever anyone says, however many times anyone screeches it from the rooftops, he didn't break any rules in his original decision to take his family to lockdown in Durham. Everyone could have done what he did provided they had somewhere to go under similar circumstances. My 25 year old daughter who has actually been living with me since leaving uni has a number of friends living and working on their own in London who, on lockdown and being furloughed, packed up their flats/houses and decamped back to parents for the duration. Not all of them managed to do that actually by the 23rd either as notice of lock down wasn't very generous!
Getting someone in to look after the boy in London, (paid help that is) would very definitely have broken the rules as nannies were not allowed at that point though they are now. It would also have been much more dangerous with regard to spreading the virus. At that point they didn't know if they had the virus or not. His wife was unwell though with no fever and no cough, and he had just been made aware that his closest colleague had just tested positive. He went back to work because his wife had not displayed the two top symptoms which were in the guidelines; the only two symptoms at the time which necessitated, in the guidelines, immediate isolation.
I work in elder care, or I did before being furloughed on 17th April after receiving a letter advising me that my pre-existing conditions required me to shield for 12 weeks, and I have been made aware of cases around this same time, end of March, of care workers arriving at work for an 8 hour shift, developing a temperature and beginning to cough and being told that they would have to finish their shift before leaving as cover couldn't be found! (This wasn't in my place of work I'm glad to say.)
Of course he returned to 10 Downing Street, he'd just been told that the Prime Minister had tested positive for COVID-19 and he was his chief advisor! What's he supposed to do? Say, "cheery bye then" and trot on? Which brings me to the poster who asked if his role is as important as someone in the NHS?? Seriously??
He didn't want to self isolate at home in London because, contrary to what someone else declared, yes, his home was being hounded by press, not to the same extent I grant you but he's absolutely hated by the remainers who are now desperate to effect an agreement to extend our leaving period beyond the end of this year in the mad hope that they'll eventually be able to have their way and turn Brexit completely on its head eventually. The deadline for achieving this being the end of June, they are now resorting to the dirtiest of tactics especially as DC arrived back in time to put a stop to just such an agreement which had been cooked up in his and Bojo's absence. The Bruge Group tweeted on 17th April to the effect that, having exhausted all parliamentary channels that there would be a personal attack on these two.
Of course this is a witch hunt and it has Momentum written all over it. Anyone who genuinely thinks that the MSM is being led by the general public is so sadly deluded it's almost unbelievable.
Of course he's made mistakes. But going to Durham in the first place wasn't one of them. And yes, he should have apologised for his lack of judgement once there. But the fact remains that not one of his mistakes has put anyone in any more danger from the virus than they were already and certainly not nearly as much danger as some of the cock-eyed suggestions as to how he should have played the situation in the eyes of his critics! Nor have his actions been as dangerous as some MPs who have been attending funerals and birthday parties with large numbers of people or having picnics when it's against their country's explicit rules. For this reason alone, baying for his resignation or dismissal is wildly out of proportion with the lack of admonishment dealt out to those others,
On the subject of not being able to drive to places to exercise because you're in Wales or Scotland or wherever, and your own assembly is making the rules for you... how is that his fault? Your electorate wanted your own assemblies, you voted for it and then bleat about not being allowed to do what we're allowed to do in England! You want to try and lay that at the door of this man as well and you still say it's not a witch hunt?
I'll retire to Bedlam!

Welcome to GN noddinggangan

That is quite some first post!

I don’t think I have ever seen one quite like it.

Well done.

Not that I agree with one word???

Are you his publicist, nodding?

I agree that going to Durham wasn't a mistake, at least.
Pretty hard, however dense he may be, to mistakenly drive your family all that way.

???

I just can't believe anyone has fallen for his story. His wife's version of events doesn't tally with his. It has more holes in it than a colander.

Nor me.
I seem to be in some parallel universe.

Here's a nice contribution from Spiked, hot off the press. .

www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/26/how-the-media-lost-the-plot/

NoddingGanGan

Well said, agree with everything you posted.

Unfortunately, many have been fooled!

NoddingzGanGan, best laugh I have had all day!

PS, I'm in Scotland and shielding, I don't blame Cummings nor Boris for my predicament.
What makes you an authority on what I or anyone else in other nations think or feel. feel.

NoddingGG is the latest of some very strange new posters.

We certainly live inn strange times.

They often pop up at certain times. What is surprising are other posters who are taken in by them .

Brexit brought loads out of the woodwork and every single one subsequently disappeared.

Are they bots or paid to put out this stuff to influence people ?

Marydoll couldn't agree more with your sentiments.

Are you a new poster, NoddingGanGan
If so, welcome.

Which part of the country do you live in?

Ps you have no idea what I voted for btw.

Oh hello,yet another new poster,supporting the rule breaker.Strange how many have appeared since the Cummings debacle started.If I was cynical I would think they were representing the Government!

I only read the first sentence,I knew it was going to be a rant about how he was in the right and everybody else was wrong!!

Over 700,000 signatures say a lot of people agree his actions were wrong.

He is not an ordinary member of Joe Public,he should behave accordingly,he has to go,nothing else will suffice.

I really hope the pressure on him continues,I hope the Press remain outside his home and that Piers Morgan and others continue to call for his dismissal.

I tweeted my MP and he replied,I will continue to tweet.

Another point about going to the Durham area -
This part of the NE, from the Tyne south, has one of the highest incidences of the virus in the country. 5th to ?10th places.
Only behind an area in the NW.

I was always told that a good way of defusing a situation was to say "I'm sorry you're upset/ annoyed" which was a way of apologising without admitting anything, perhaps he should have tried that! How can you drive if you think your eyesight is dodgy, dangerous and selfish.

NoddingGanGan you work in ‘elder care’ and yet you believe that once Social Services are involved, especially if the parents aren't around any longer, anything could happen to the poor little thing? Words fail me.

Do you really believe that if anyone with symptoms of Covid contacted Children’s Services (Social Services Departments have not existed in England and Wales for many years now) social workers would have swooped in to remove the children? I can assure you there is a real crisis in finding placements for vulnerable children at the moment, and by that I mean those at risk in their own homes. Children’s Services might have tried to help him to transport his child to relatives but to be honest with staffing levels reduced due to the virus, and the challenges of working safely under current guidelines, this situation would not have been a priority.

Dominic Cummings broke the guidelines he helped to produce. There was never a loophole that allowed anyone with symptoms to leave their home, under any circumstances. I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated before people will believe it. He should have summoned help from relatives in Durham to collect his son. That would have been in line with the official guidance (law). What he did was not. It’s really that simple.