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Need help untangling lockdown rules

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Furret Thu 18-Jun-20 08:36:38

Asking for a friend! It’s her son-in-laws birthday next week.

She and her husband have been invited round as part of the ‘6 people can meet up in a garden’ rule.

His mother lives alone and can form a bubble with her son’s family.

They co-grandparent a 3-year old girl.

As the rule stands one grandparent (the bubble one) can cuddle granddaughter, sit close to son and family and go inside their house. My friend has to social distance, not cuddle grandchild and can only go inside to use the loo.

Do I have that right?


GrauntyHelen Fri 19-Jun-20 21:05:57

you have that right

ElaineI Fri 19-Jun-20 21:31:39

Never heard about 6 people. Which country are you in as all 4 are different?

EthelJ Fri 19-Jun-20 23:04:07

In England up to 6 people can meet up as long as it is outside eg a garden or park and as long as they keep 2 metres apart from this from a different household.
I have met with my grandchildren for a picnic however it is not possible to stay socially distanced from very young children so I have been careful but we certainly have not been 2 metres apart and we have touched. I have followed all rules to the letter until the outdoor meetings were allowed and I met my grandchildren.
I do think that people are not adhering to the rules as much now. Especially as they have began to be relaxed and more complex. It is worrying because the virus has not gone away.

Eloethan Sat 20-Jun-20 00:32:25

The whole thing is so chaotic now, to some degree I just do what I think is sensible. After insisting that people should keep 2 metres away from each other, even in the open air, it is now being suggested that this be reduced to 1 metre (indoors also), and that you would probably need to be near somebody for 15 minutes before there was a risk of infection. There are so many contradictions.

If people are outside, keep their distance and clean their hands if contact is made with anything or anyone, I think the risk of infection is minimal, especially in small, well spaced groups. Of course, if people feel very anxious about attending something where it might be difficult to keep to the strict rules, they should decline. I'm sure everyone would understand.

The track and trace thing seems to have been a bit of a disaster so it appears there is nothing in place to deal with the virus anyway, other than try to contain the speed at which it is passed on by restricting contact to as few people as practical. I thought the scientists said it would have to work its way through at least 50% of the population before it would go away (though may reappear in the winter). If that is the case and we continue to have no properly organised and effective way of identifying sufferers and their contacts, then I feel more and more risk has to be accepted because we can't go on like this indefinitely.

Of course, older people and people with significant health risks will often take the decision to isolate themselves completely and indefinitely but this makes for a pretty horrible existence and brings with it other health problems.