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New school term, risks for grandparents

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Speldnan Tue 18-Aug-20 07:52:34

I see my grandchildren at least once a week. I’m worried now that they are soon going back to school (aged 8 and 4) whether it will be safe to still see them regularly. It seems inevitable that there will be outbreaks of coronavirus in schools and if children are asymptomatic it could be even more dangerous to be seeing them. I really don’t know what to do! I’ve been in a bubble with them so we’ve been interacting as normal up until now. What will other grandparents be doing?

growstuff Tue 18-Aug-20 15:15:29

Taliya

Children are asymptomatic and also they don't seem to pass the virus on. Its children who are teenagers that are more likely to pass the virus on to others not children under 11 apparently.

There's still a lot of doubt about that. Children can be asymptomatic, but not always. Some research in Chicago suggested that they also shed the virus.

Franbern Tue 18-Aug-20 15:23:31

Small children have always been covered in germs for such things as influenza, colds, D&V, shingles. etc - always have This is why new teachers can spend so much of their first year or two in the classroom, actually out of it as they are poorly.
Do you all avoid all your g.children because of these illnesses - and some of them can be very serious and lead to life long problems?
Like others on here, I accept that I have only a few years left (if I am lucky) and am most definitely not going to lock myself away for however long I have left.
Good hygiene, lots of hand washing and I will carry on with my nearly normal life.

Ellianne Tue 18-Aug-20 15:32:22

So much is unknown about this virus that I have adopted the cross that bridge when we come to it attitude. There is still another two weeks before term starts for my DGC so I will reassess the situation when the time comes. I trust the schools to have the safety measures in place as best they can.

paddyanne Tue 18-Aug-20 15:36:04

Marydoll get the head teacher to send information about behaviour at the school gates.Crowding is unacceptable.The staggered times seems to be working well for our school and my other GD 's class is being let out of a side door onto a quiet street where parents can distance until the children make their way across to them . It just needs guidance from the school so parents behave themselves !

Greenfinch Tue 18-Aug-20 15:37:40

If so many of you will not be seeing your grandchildren from September are you feeling that it is not safe for schools to re start then ?

BlueBelle Tue 18-Aug-20 15:39:29

I still see my teenage grandkids have a cuddle and don’t think about it
I think we cannot go on living this awful solo existence so unless you live in a highly contagious area I feel we need to get back to normal and take what chance you feel happy to take
If I lived in a lockdown area I would act differently

Marydoll Tue 18-Aug-20 15:42:22

Paddyanne, the HT is a former colleague of mine and she has put some measures in place to try and improve things after the first day melee.
However, some parents still think the rules do not apply to them.
Parents are not allowed in the playground, so there is a huge crowd at the gate.

MayBee70 Tue 18-Aug-20 15:45:22

Am I the only granny that doesn’t bother about cuddling my grandchildren? I’ve never been the most tactile of people. All that matters to me is that they’re safe. I do worry about schools reopening but I feel that they need the chance to live a more normal life. And, given that they hopefully are not likely to be as badly affected by the virus as I am I’m quite ok with protecting myself as much as possible to take the pressure off the NHS and also my family.

Marmight Tue 18-Aug-20 16:02:39

DDs friend who works in management in 3 large local hospitals says they're anticipating & preparing for a covid spike in mid September i.e. 2 weeks after schools return The next will be after half term. DD works in a different school to her boys. She is concerned as am I They’re in different bubbles in school but then mix once home. ?

nannafizz Tue 18-Aug-20 17:36:21

I’m new to gransnet & usually just enjoy all your posts and chats .What a lovely lot you are . !
However I felt the need to join this thread as I work as a teaching assistant at my granddaughter’s primary school. I worked all through lockdown with key worker’s children. When my granddaughter returns to school I will see her everyday . It’s a strange situation to be in at this time but I’m sure we will work around it!

Marydoll Tue 18-Aug-20 17:48:46

nannafizz, welcome . That's lovely you managed to continue your relationship with your granddaughter.
However, many of us have been sheilding or are vulnerable. Therein lies the dilemma.

nannafizz Tue 18-Aug-20 17:58:18

Than you Marydoll . It’s certainly been & still is a very worrying time for those that have been shielding. A lot of parents queue at a safe distance from one another at our school gate , as each child is greeted by one of us , but then gather in large groups to chat as they head back to their cars!

Bluecat Tue 18-Aug-20 18:31:14

I am not going to look after my grandchildren, which breaks my heart. I want them to come to my house but it is too dangerous. Their parents are back at work and soon the oldest two will be back at school. I worry about all of them, but I know that DH and I are in the vulnerable group and would be most at risk if they passed it to us.

Has anyone watched "Surviving the virus : my brother and me" on iplayer? It is made by twin brothers who are doctors - they do a lot of medical programmes, including ones for kids - and it is a salutary reminder of just how bad the virus is. It's not just a killer, there are also some very serious after-effects for those who survive.

MayBee70 Tue 18-Aug-20 20:01:47

I can't do a link [I will try] but please listen to Dr John Campbells latest blog. It is very optimistic regarding the number of people that appear to have immunity already and that those that have had the virus do have long term immunity. Which doesn't mean that we won't be one of the people badly affected if we do catch it so we must still be careful but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I just need to listen to it again as there's a lot to take in.

janeainsworth Tue 18-Aug-20 20:13:12

I think this is the link Maybee
m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Z6wdu1eI0

MayBee70 Tue 18-Aug-20 21:00:14

Thanks jane....

Hellis Tue 18-Aug-20 21:05:55

I have been looking after my 4year old granddaughter throughout the summer holidays so DS and his ex (GDs mum ) could work. She starts school in 2weeks and I will only be needed in the school holidays then.But I also look after two other grandchildren, my daughters, overnight as she works night shifts twice a week at a care home. They lost quite a few residents to covid in May, so I

Hellis Tue 18-Aug-20 21:11:42

Oops pressed button too soon. So I didn't have the children until the end of June. When they go back to school , I don't know whether I should risk having them , but it makes it difficult for DD if I don't . Their biological dad doesn't like their stepdad looking after them, even though he is more than capable

Cabbie21 Tue 18-Aug-20 21:33:26

If I lived alone I would probably be less isolating, but I cannot risk DH getting the virus as he has several vulnerable factors and it would probably kill him.
I too am worried that when my DGC start mixing more in September it will be too risky to see them, especially once the weather changes and we cannot sit outside. They are at secondary school, with a long bus journey.

Cornwallgal Tue 18-Aug-20 22:45:54

My GC live over four hours drive away. We used to childmind and do school pick ups for one week every month but from March we didn’t leave our house. Finally this last week they came for a two week holiday. I love the cuddles and yes I know it’s a risk. We are in our sixties. But I couldn’t bear not to hold them and they are both demonstrative. It’s impossible to socially distanced from them (aged 6 and 3) and truly hard even with my DD and DSIL. The house lay out has worked. They have separate bedrooms and their own bathrooms but in the main living areas...
We obviously won’t do the monthly visits come Sept but I don’t regret this family reunion. This might be with us for some time so we have to make it work for us as safely as we can as well as protect others. Mask up people! X

MayBee70 Wed 19-Aug-20 10:24:23

Yes: mask up. The more people do to stop the spread the safer it will be for those that can’t avoid contact with others. Every single one of us is responsible for the safety of everyone else. We’ve just got to get through this winter but spring will follow and there will be an end to all this.

Ellianne Wed 19-Aug-20 10:55:20

That's lovely Cornwallgal and memories for you in the bleaker winter months. I think we underestimate the mutual benefits of close contact and cuddles at that age. It is impossible not to hug or to comfort a little child. I agree we have to make it work for us as safely as we can without being paranoid.
Flowing on I also think body language and facial expression plays such an important part in the development of little children which is why I am against teachers wearing masks at primary level. The younger children are so often guided by our own expressions and watch for responses in our eyes too.

Franbern Fri 21-Aug-20 09:00:09

It is now being reported that deaths from 'Flu is running at three times the number than than that from Covid. Even those are lower than norm. for the time of the year. Probably several reasons, one being better hand hygiene being used by many, but also, the fact that many who would have died from 'flu were amongst those who died earlier this year.
Flu has long being a serious illness and can be fatal. Yet, I bet there are very few of the people on here who normally look after their g.children have ever refused to do so because of that danger.

MayBee70 Fri 21-Aug-20 11:20:32

But many of those who look after their grandchildren will have had a flu vaccine; a protection we don't have against covid thus far. And flu doesn't cause the long term problems that covid can have in many people. I would also assume that children don't suffer from fly asymptomatically but I do stand to be corrected. Covid and flu are two entirely different viruses and have to be treated as such.

Homeles Tue 01-Sept-20 19:25:50

We are grandparents who have our Grand daughter living with us permanently.
There dosnt seem to be a lot of advise about this.
We both have been shielding but
Now need to send our granddaughter