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Sweden euthanising elderly corvid care home residents

(36 Posts)
GagaJo Tue 18-Aug-20 14:45:56

I read an article today about this. Elderly care home residents suffering from corvid 19 in Sweden are often not taken to hospital but are instead given morphine and suffocate to death.

MawB2 Tue 18-Aug-20 17:43:41

Am I the only one? confusedconfused

Elegran Tue 18-Aug-20 18:39:33

It was quite short, and the exact wording was repeated in half a dozen places (mostly in financial media, for some strange reason)

biba70 Tue 18-Aug-20 18:45:19

Totally agree with Bluebelle. The language used is just awful. Thinking of both my mum and my mil - had they caught Covid- the way described would have been the kindest. If someone is very old and very sick, with multiple medical issues, in pain and with dementia- why intubate for weeks- just so that they can survive for a few more weeks or months or misery and no quality of life.

biba70 Tue 18-Aug-20 18:47:02

I can't acces full article either MawB2- perhaps because I use an ad blocker.

nanaK54 Tue 18-Aug-20 19:20:48

BlueBelle

Well depends what and how if they are people who are very elderly very ill and catch Covid perhaps that’s a decent thing to do
I think if I was given the choice of 5 years with severe Alzheimer’s or debilitating illness or a quick exit I might well choose the latter
When my Nan with severe Alzheimer’s Bed sores that wouldn’t heal and no quality of life caught pneumonia in 1983 the doctor said he would not prescribe her anti biotics but make ‘her comfortable’ and she died quietly in her sleep I didn’t question it but I presume it was morphine
I think ‘suffocate to death‘ makes it sound very dramatic and cruel but is it ?

Absolutely agree with this.
My dear mum was 'helped on her way' with morphine, her doctors exact words were "lets make her last journey a good one"

MawB2 Tue 18-Aug-20 19:54:05

I’ll shut up now - I wasn’t commenting on the article, although I wonder how Gagajo thinks terminally ill patients’ “final journey” is eased in hospices?
My point was the use of the word Corvid - crow, rook, raven, magpie etc as shown in the picture and not what it should be ie. Covid -and you an English teacher Gagajo gringrin

GagaJo Tue 18-Aug-20 20:31:33

www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/GGk664/de-nast-intill-avlivar-de-gamla

This is a better article. If you open it in Google, you can opt to read it in English (probably makes at least as much sense as my avian waffle Maw).

But phrases such as:

'examine patients by telephone'

'sentenced to death'

'active euthanasia'

All of elderly people quite capable of recovery, but written off because they had C19. The AC of one man treated this way intervened. Consequently, the elderly father made a complete recovery.

Why does anyone raise anything on Gransnet Maisie? It's not because we change anything. It's because it is of interest / concern / debate worthy.

MawB2 Tue 18-Aug-20 20:36:54

avian waffle - love it! grin

GagaJo Tue 18-Aug-20 20:37:41

Doesn't sound very edible.

MawB2 Tue 18-Aug-20 21:08:16

???
Not unlike a friend when we were students at St Andrews who asked us round for a curry one night - fortunately I had not got as far as putting my fork in my mouth when Paw asked him what sort of curry it was and he replied “Black-backed gull”!
As I recall he didn’t take offence either when we pushed our plates away!