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NHS Covid 19 Track & Trace app now available

(210 Posts)
Willow500 Thu 24-Sept-20 06:26:19

I've just downloaded it. Let's hope enough people do the same to try and get the virus back under control.

Flygirl Sat 26-Sept-20 01:20:32

Nope. Thanks.

Furret Sat 26-Sept-20 04:56:33

MayBee70

Furret

Now all we need are the sniffer dogs they at Amsterdam (? was it?) airport. They apparently can detect the virus even before symptoms appear in a few seconds.

Helsinki I believe. They can detect the virus @ 5 days before the person develops symptoms and are almost 100% accurate. I’ve read that they are training dogs in the UK and America but haven’t heard any more about it. This could be a real game changer so why aren’t dogs being trained everywhere?

It’s crazy not to. So simple and effective

Furret Sat 26-Sept-20 04:56:51

Flygirl

Nope. Thanks.

Nope to what?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Sept-20 13:58:21

Two tweets with which I agree.

Richard Murphy

Why won’t I be using the so-called #NHS contact tracing app? Because it is actually designed not to process Covid tests done by the NHS. It only processes private sector test results. So it’s not an NHS app, it’s not comprehensive and it’s a Trojan horse for NHS privatisation.

Clive Peedell
As someone who is very proud to have worked for the #NHS for 25 years, can I politely ask every UK citizen to remember one thing today: It’s “Serco” track and trace, NOT “NHS” track and trace.
The NHS is the country’s most trusted institution and we should not let Serco trash it

Franbern Sat 26-Sept-20 14:25:43

Indeed, this 'wonderful misnamed NHS app, which is nothing of the sort - just a Serco ap. cannot link up with any test, positive or negative which is carried out at a genuine NHS Hospital or NHS Testing site.

Just another load of incredibly costing rubbish with contract going to Johnson mate. Not really going to be much help at all.

B9exchange Sat 26-Sept-20 14:41:25

WW2 and Franbern, thank you, I had read that too, but was too scared to post it in case I got shot down in flames. I also read that it will only accept positive test results, not negative ones, did you pick that up too?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Sept-20 14:50:29

Yes, it seems yet another enormous amount of wasted money we have spent enriching the Tory elite.

Daddima Sat 26-Sept-20 15:15:12

Whitewavemark2

Two tweets with which I agree.

Richard Murphy

Why won’t I be using the so-called #NHS contact tracing app? Because it is actually designed not to process Covid tests done by the NHS. It only processes private sector test results. So it’s not an NHS app, it’s not comprehensive and it’s a Trojan horse for NHS privatisation.

Clive Peedell
As someone who is very proud to have worked for the #NHS for 25 years, can I politely ask every UK citizen to remember one thing today: It’s “Serco” track and trace, NOT “NHS” track and trace.
The NHS is the country’s most trusted institution and we should not let Serco trash it

This is what I thought. The government awarded the contract to Serco, and the app cannot record test results from the NHS, yet it is constantly referred to as the NHS app.

Franbern Sat 26-Sept-20 16:24:58

B9exchange - yes BBC news is now reporting that even if you get your test at Serco testing centre and get a negative result (which most tests do get), the ap is unable to accept that and cannot switch off the alert system.
Seems to be another total waste of public money.

25Avalon Sat 26-Sept-20 16:48:16

At least you will know if you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive. Although apparently the blue tooth can get confused and think you were close when you were at safe distance.

Greeneyedgirl Sat 26-Sept-20 17:05:53

I haven’t yet downloaded the App as I have many reservations about it one of which is pointed out by Franbern. Additionally I don’t believe Bluetooth is particularly accurate in some situations and not convinced about the algorithm the alert for contact is based on.

I have also heard about the sniffer dogs being trialled at Helsinki airport, and they do seem to be incredibly effective at almost 100% accuracy of sniffing Covid 3-5 days prior to symptoms. More accurate, and much cheaper than tests. Could indeed be a game changer.

Daisymae Sat 26-Sept-20 17:36:59

It's incredible, the app is not going to function correctly and any data will be misleading. I can't believe it. Well I can. What a let down, having waited all these months we have been sold a pup. Just remind me how much had this cost?

Furret Sat 26-Sept-20 17:54:59

The developers of the new NHS coronavirus tracing app have admitted that more than 60,000 tests carried out in England yesterday - just under a third of the total - cannot be linked to its systems.

So doesn’t that means that 120,000 can and were linked into the system?

If that’s the case then better than nothing.

Atqui Sat 26-Sept-20 18:06:51

I live in one of the lowest risk places in the country and the app said it was Medium. I looked this up on app info and it said they weren’t telling anyone they were low risk , because it might make people complacent

suziewoozie Sat 26-Sept-20 18:17:50

Furret the problem is that the group of people who can’t input their results are not representative of the group that can and so results are skewed as well as incomplete

growstuff Sat 26-Sept-20 19:30:59

Furret

The developers of the new NHS coronavirus tracing app have admitted that more than 60,000 tests carried out in England yesterday - just under a third of the total - cannot be linked to its systems.

So doesn’t that means that 120,000 can and were linked into the system?

If that’s the case then better than nothing.

Pillar 1 tests (ie those carried out by the NHS rather than Serco) can't be linked to the app in England. Those in Scotland and Wales can.

Numbers reported by the app don't reflect reality.

growstuff Sat 26-Sept-20 19:34:51

25Avalon

At least you will know if you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive. Although apparently the blue tooth can get confused and think you were close when you were at safe distance.

The trouble is that you won't necessarily know. There are many people who will be infected and don't know or aren't tested because they either can't get a test or don't want to take time off work if they have symptoms.

People must not rely on the app as proof they have not been in contact with somebody infected.

suziewoozie Sat 26-Sept-20 20:52:05

And pillar 1 tests given they include people admitted to hospital with CoVID symptoms are more likely to be positive surely. FFS

MissAdventure Sat 26-Sept-20 21:00:17

I downloaded it, then deleted it.
It seems quite pointless, if we forget the idea that this is some sort of miracle app.

Jaxjacky Sat 26-Sept-20 21:10:44

I agree the sniffer dogs are amazing, so, do we all get a sniffer dog then? ? How would you suggest they’re deployed?

089fraZZeledApricot Sat 26-Sept-20 21:12:34

???

growstuff Sat 26-Sept-20 22:46:46

Apparently/allegedly, the glitch has been fixed.

B9exchange Sat 26-Sept-20 22:53:51

You still can't put in negative tests, but apparently that doesn't matter, even though the countdown clock keeps going and there is no way to turn it off.

MissAdventure Sat 26-Sept-20 22:57:02

Is there a point to inputting negative results?
My brain isn't firing on all cylinders, but I can't think of one.

growstuff Sat 26-Sept-20 23:12:59

MissAdventure

Is there a point to inputting negative results?
My brain isn't firing on all cylinders, but I can't think of one.

I think it does matter. My understanding is that a user can input having symptoms. Contacts then know that they are supposed to self-isolate until the original user receives a negative result. However, if the user can't input a negative result after being tested, the contacts won't know that they no longer need to self-isolate.

As cases continue to rise, we're going to have hundreds of thousands of people in self-isolation for no reason at all, on the off chance that they are infected . If the public loses confidence in the system and realises that their time is being wasted, they could stop using it.