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Christmas lockdown?

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Daisymae Sun 18-Oct-20 18:47:48

Seeing how things have changed in the last week, I can't see how a Christmas lockdown can be avoided if as a country we are to avoid a huge spike in cases. Students home, grandparents in the mix, cold weather, lots of people from mixed houses together - seems like a perfect storm. I personally will now prepare for plan B, as had hoped that we could see different families in different days. In my heart of hearts I can't see this happening. Xmas pud for 2 it is.

BlueSky Tue 20-Oct-20 12:05:07

FH you only said what some people will be doing anyway and worse. Not sure what the penalties would be if caught but you are aware of that. Christmas seems to be so important for your mental welfare. There could very well be an easing off of restrictions for that period anyway. Take care x?

Kalu Tue 20-Oct-20 12:10:56

Oh, this virus just loves a party so, let’s all meet up on Christmas Day, the virus won’t be needing an invitation!

MawB2 Tue 20-Oct-20 12:23:54

Planning for Christmas is a huge part of the enjoyment - there is a saying “it is better to travel hopefully than to arrive” and the Christmas preparations are all a major part of it - the mince pies, the cake, decorating the tree - often evoking the bittersweet memories of Christmases past .
So your Christmas Eve afternoon baking sounds perfect FH, Providing for and giving to those we love is what it is all about, isn’t it? I hope you will be listening to the Festival of Lessons and Carols while you are doing it and getting into the Christmas spirit.
The big difference this year is that many of us will have to factor in a Plan B and must not get downhearted if circumstances spoil our plans.
So if we can’t all be together this Christmas, let’s hope that that’s so that we can all be here next!
(I’d be happy enough with an Xmas pud for 2 Daisymae but as for many others here it’s more likely to be a turkey dinner for one. )

BlueSky Tue 20-Oct-20 12:36:09

MawB caring and sensible post x ?

suziewoozie Tue 20-Oct-20 12:41:26

It’s perfectly possible to plan for Christmas and get real pleasure from that without those plans including deliberately flouting rules and guidance and threatening the lives, health and welfare of other people.

Nannan2 Tue 20-Oct-20 12:43:03

I usually just go a couple of days or so before xmas to drop off gifts- have short 1hr visit with different older 'children' & GC, then back home for a xmas with the 2 youngest still at home 17&now 22today!) But last yr we arrived,(22nd dec) i slipped& took a fall so straight off to a 3hr wait in a&e to check im okay so got about a 10minute visit to them all to drop presents.on 23rd i was ill so was at G.P. surgery (not head- bang related) then tablets made me really sick and then by xmas day i was so bad paramedics sent me to a&e and then i was back again on boxing day as paramedic ladies took me straight in! All in very early hours of both mornings! (Turns out it could very well have been covid 19 the G.P.s nurse has since said) So a nice quiet christmas at home with my 2 lads please for me this year! ??

Marydoll Tue 20-Oct-20 12:43:26

For me too, Christmas with my family is good for my mental wellbeing. However, in my opinion the physical wellbeing of myself, my family and those we may come in contact with supercedes everything. No point worrying about your mental wellbeing if Covid has killed you.

It appears that Nicola Sturgeon is planning to introduce even stricter guidelines across the Central belt on Friday. Anyone who flaunts those guidelines is nothing short of irresponsible and reckless.
If everyone does what they are asked, there may just be a slim chance that we will see our families at Christmas.
We have tried so hard to do what is right in the last months, but I feel that effort has all been for nothing.

Namsnanny Tue 20-Oct-20 12:43:27

Nice to see you posting MawB (have you lost the 2?) smile

Nannan2 Tue 20-Oct-20 12:44:02

And ill post the gifts if i have to!

sodapop Tue 20-Oct-20 12:50:12

Yes good to see you back MawB2 the 2 is still there Namsnanny

Lucca Tue 20-Oct-20 12:50:30

Everybody’s mental health is important. I’m feeling dreadful today as it happens and I’ll probably be alone at Christmas but so what? I wouldn’t dream of having a lot of people from different households in the house. This attitude is one of the things contributing to how I feel today, that this will not end as they say anytime soon, I’ll not be able to see my son in Australia. So I guess, bait taken.

LauraNorder Tue 20-Oct-20 12:55:06

Good posts Marydoll and Lucca, I agree.

suziewoozie Tue 20-Oct-20 13:01:07

Lucca you’re so right - posting on here with detailed information about your planned rule breaking for Christmas and how it will make you feel better can be damaging to the mental well being of others and especially those facing Christmas on their own. Complete and utter selfish GFery of the lowest order.

Bellanonna Tue 20-Oct-20 13:08:06

Camomile, Callistemon? I need something stronger than thst.

Chewbacca Tue 20-Oct-20 13:12:31

I'm sorry you're having a down day today Lucca; I think most of us feel as you do. We all want to see our families, especially at Christmas and the majority of us have sacrificed so much already and yet are prepared to sacrifice still more to try and bring this damned pandemic to an end. It does sting that some are admitting that their needs and wishes are more important than anyone else's and they're quite prepared to take circuitous routes, and break the law in order that they have what they want and be damned to anyone else. But ultimately, we can only control our own actions and hope that that's enough to keep us, and the selfish ones, safe. flowers

Marydoll Tue 20-Oct-20 13:22:02

Lucca ?

Lucca Tue 20-Oct-20 13:37:34

Thanks marydoll Callistemon Suziewoozie. I’ve managed to shower and get dressed but am really struggling to get further than that. I’ll be fine tomorrow, she said in a small wobbly voice.

BlueSky Tue 20-Oct-20 13:40:38

Chewbacca
“But ultimately, we can only control our own actions and hope that that's enough to keep us, and the selfish ones, safe.”
That’s all we can do.

suziewoozie Tue 20-Oct-20 14:05:16

BlueSky

Chewbacca
“But ultimately, we can only control our own actions and hope that that's enough to keep us, and the selfish ones, safe.”
That’s all we can do.

But this is just a truism isn’t it? It doesn’t address the issue of the reality of how the selfish people make some of us feel or the danger they pose to everyone else. As Lucca s post demonstrates our feelings are part of our everyday lived experiences. Some posts, like FH’s don’t help and are imo completely unnecessary, unkind, thoughtless and cruel. If posters want to share stories of their flouting, they could PM each other.
As I said upthread, facing Christmas on your own ( and living through the pandemic on your own) must be especially difficult. Being on your own but part of a genuine bubble is quite different.

Charleygirl5 Tue 20-Oct-20 14:10:48

I am on my own with no family and certainly where I live I can see next year around this time being exactly the same and we will be having similar conversations.

At least the harsh weather is not here yet. Look after yourselves.

Callistemon Tue 20-Oct-20 14:12:00

Bellanonna

Camomile, Callistemon? I need something stronger than thst.

grin
I have a packet of Melissa tea, Bellanonna, you're welcome to that!
I thought it was a good idea at the time

Callistemon Tue 20-Oct-20 14:15:30

Oh dear Lucca there's nothing much I can say to cheer you up, just to say I understand; DD said last night 'we should have been there with you this Christmas'.
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Chewbacca Tue 20-Oct-20 14:19:09

But this is just a truism isn’t it?

Yes suziewoozie you're absolutely right, it is. But when confronted with the statement that some people have put plans in place as to how they intend to circumnavigate any rules set out to hinder the spreading of the virus, there seems little else that the rest of us can do but suck it up. Christmas this year will be extremely difficult for many of us.

Callistemon Tue 20-Oct-20 14:29:27

MawB2

Good post, yes much of the joy is in the planning; if there's a Christmas lockdown we'll just have to put it on hold. After all, we can watch the Christmas services.

"to travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive, and the true success is to labour."
However, we all want to arrive safely at the end of all this and, if we are all careful, there will be an end.

suziewoozie Tue 20-Oct-20 14:30:02

Yes Chew you’re right in the sense of not being able to prevent that sort of behaviour. However, every time someone posts about their flouting, I hope they are left in no doubt as to how many of us feel about their planned behaviour. I don’t think it’s all right not to criticise them - especially as their posts can and do cause damage.