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Vaccinations from next week

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Alegrias2 Wed 02-Dec-20 08:32:08

If you're thinking of coming on this thread to say "it's not over yet", don't bother. This is good news and this is the beginning of the end.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55145696

biba70 Wed 02-Dec-20 18:05:01

7sx2k

I'll wait and see what happens when we hear/see others who have been vaccinated first.

that is what people in the EU are doing ;)

Granny1London Wed 02-Dec-20 18:08:29

If others aren’t vaccinated it increases everyone’s risk. That’s partly how it works, ever heard about herd immunity?

PamelaJ1 Wed 02-Dec-20 18:10:38

Let’s just hope that enough of us have the vaccine to ensure the protection of those who won’t.
I’m getting the impression that there will be.

justwokeup Wed 02-Dec-20 18:10:39

Quite right that NHS and care home staff are the first to get immunised. After losing a dear family member and a lovely gentle neighbour to Covid, both of whom caught it in hospital after prolonged hospital stays, then being told that coronavirus is endemic in that hospital, I think hospital staff should be first in the queue. We also lost a relative to lockdown in a care home, just giving up when family couldn't visit, so care home staff being vaccinated might be the first positive step towards family visiting care homes freely again. The past 5 months have been so full of sorrow for us, and I know many of you have similar experiences, so no arguments here about who should be first, whether or not there is agreement about transmission etc.
And, perhaps we could agree to disagree, or put another point of view forward, without being 'shouty'. As my dear old Mum grin used to say 'if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything'. She was a love though, miss her every day.

CraftyGranny Wed 02-Dec-20 18:17:09

I can't see why some people are worried about having the vaccine. They are not going to give it to health care professionals first if it isn't safe, are they.

When I am called I will be there in a flash. I need to see my grandchildren and great grandchildren before they forget me.

Bring it on. good luck to everyone.

nanaK54 Wed 02-Dec-20 18:17:12

Alegrias2

JVT being spectacularly good on the briefing at the moment. ?

He always is, I am his number one superfan grin

Wheniwasyourage Wed 02-Dec-20 18:17:22

PamelaJ1

urmstongran
I am certainly no expert and can’t quote dates and times but I have heard quite a few eminent medical and scientific people explaining that,as COVID is a type of flu, it has been easier to develop this vaccine than it normally would be. They weren’t starting from scratch.

IT'S NOT A TYPE OF FLU, AND YES, I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE I AM FED UP WITH SAYING THIS.

You are right, it has been easier to develop the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine as they were already working on anti-coronavirus (NOT FLU) vaccines for Sars, Mers and the common cold.

biba70 Wed 02-Dec-20 18:18:30

it seems there has been a change of mind re care homes

trisher Wed 02-Dec-20 18:22:06

Those who are celebratng might like to look at the timeline.
400,000 so it will take approx 3 weeks to vaccinate these people. If a similar time frame applies to more doses it will take approx 30 weeks to vaccinate 4 mill. Now it may speed up but it is going to take a considerable length of time to vaccinate all over 65s. There are approx 17 mill of them. As no one knows how long the immunity lasts things could be very complicated.

VRH1 Wed 02-Dec-20 18:52:18

Make sure you read the vaccine advice sheet first, ladies (contraindications). Make an ‘informed’ choice.

Sparklefizz Wed 02-Dec-20 18:59:01

nanaK54

Alegrias2

JVT being spectacularly good on the briefing at the moment. ?

He always is, I am his number one superfan grin

I'm a great fan of JVT too! Love him... and more importantly, I trust him.

biba70 Wed 02-Dec-20 19:00:08

how many medical and care staff?

how many teachers?

bus drivers?

Casdon Wed 02-Dec-20 19:18:05

Trisher your assumption is flawed because 400,000 is what’s available initially, that is what’s limiting the numbers who can be vaccinated, and given that it’s also Christmas and the New Year, that’s manageable. When further vaccines are approved the supply won’t be an issue, and the NHS is geared up to mass vaccinate millions each week. It said on the briefing earlier that they anticipate all over 50s being vaccinated by April.

Lizbethann55 Wed 02-Dec-20 19:19:48

trisher so are you saying as it will take so long, let's not bother at all? You sound very negative

Alegrias2 Wed 02-Dec-20 19:35:52

VRH1 I'm planning on making an informed choice.

My choice is not to die of COVID.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Dec-20 19:41:12

Alegrias2

VRH1 I'm planning on making an informed choice.

My choice is not to die of COVID.

And as part of a wider community we have a responsibility to each other and ensuring herd immunity, which can’t be achieved until we have at least 70% of us vaccinated.

Iam64 Wed 02-Dec-20 19:59:05

I'm thrilled about the news about the vaccine. No doubt there will be some blips in the process of organising vaccination programmes.
I share Whitewave's belief that we have a responsibility to each other and the ensuring offered immunity. Apologies to anyone who doesn't like comparisons with animals but, my dogs are immunised because I agree with my vet, herd immunity is important.
The last big vaccination programme in this country affected most of us. I remember sitting in line with mum, waiting to be inoculated against polio. It worked didn't it. Same with smallpox, tb, measles etc -wealthy countries like ours, so many killer diseases have been largely eradicated.

Jane10 Wed 02-Dec-20 20:36:09

JVT us wonderful. I was disappointed he wasn't wearing his bandleader suit today though.
I really liked his three Cs plus D and V. Made sense to me. Lovely that he'd got so emotional this morning when he heard the news and happily admitted it. smile

trisher Wed 02-Dec-20 20:51:23

Iam64

I'm thrilled about the news about the vaccine. No doubt there will be some blips in the process of organising vaccination programmes.
I share Whitewave's belief that we have a responsibility to each other and the ensuring offered immunity. Apologies to anyone who doesn't like comparisons with animals but, my dogs are immunised because I agree with my vet, herd immunity is important.
The last big vaccination programme in this country affected most of us. I remember sitting in line with mum, waiting to be inoculated against polio. It worked didn't it. Same with smallpox, tb, measles etc -wealthy countries like ours, so many killer diseases have been largely eradicated.

The polio vaccine and others took considerable lengths of time to develop and use successfully. Even then there were a number of hiccups as they were rolled out. Including problems with storing them safely and some batches actually causing polio. I posted the vaccine timeline earier on this thread
What I am negative about is not just the vaccine it is the ability to succesfully carry out a mass vaccination with so many unknowns, and the huge media-fest this has become where none of the warnings which are essential to ensure success are even mentioned.

Armynanny Wed 02-Dec-20 20:52:53

I missed the briefing today but heard that the vaccine has been approved. We will definitely be having it as soon as we can. I’ve also heard between the lines though that we will still be wearing masks even when we’ve had the vaccine. Was this discussed? Is this true or is it that some will still prefer to wear them?

OceanMama Wed 02-Dec-20 20:55:04

VRH1

Make sure you read the vaccine advice sheet first, ladies (contraindications). Make an ‘informed’ choice.

Is there a link to this information sheet? I'm curious to see it.

Alegrias2 Wed 02-Dec-20 20:59:42

trisher what are you getting out of this perpetual pessimism?

The polio vaccine was developed a long time ago. Things move on. We have new technologies now and scientists have tools at their command that the developers of the polio vaccine couldn't even have dreamt of. They knew the genetic structure of the Coronavirus within a month of it jumping to humans.

If we'd always given in to such pessimism we wouldn't have any vaccine at all, we'd all be sitting around feeling sorry for ourselves. We should be happy that we have scientists that have made such terrific discoveries and that we have an NHS that is gearing up for the biggest vaccination campaign in history.

Sarahmob Wed 02-Dec-20 21:05:17

A friend of mine has been a guinea pig for the vaccine, he’s been fine. I’m ready and waiting for my turn - it’ll be a relief to go to work without the threat of the virus hanging over me.

lemongrove Wed 02-Dec-20 21:08:37

Olive53

The fact they want to vaccinate everyone on the planet proves this is nothing about the virus
A virus with over 99% recovery rate doesn’t call for word wide vaccination on this scale
So what’s in these vaccines that’s so important they want everyone to have one ?

That’s right! They may want to turn us all into chimps, while those at the top will opt out and remain human! We will be forced to work for bananas instead of wages.
?

lemongrove Wed 02-Dec-20 21:10:02

It’s wonderful news, a light at the end of the tunnel.