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Anyone fed up with people not following the rules

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Blue5 Sun 13-Dec-20 15:51:27

Do people not understand the rules . Am in tier 2 and the amount of people having visitors in my neighbourhood is unbelievable . Not seen my grandchildren for weeks or spending Xmas with them .Does anyone else think its selfish.

Teacheranne Mon 14-Dec-20 12:56:28

I don’t think the current rules are hard to understand, yes, they have changed a lot and might not make sense to you but if you read the government website ( rather than newspapers) they are very clearly laid out.

What does annoy me are politicians and medical experts being interviewed on TV with their masks slipping off their nose as they talk, I end up yelling at the TV “ cover your nose!”

I’m also cross about living in an area with a lower infection rate than many London boroughs yet we are under tier three restrictions. I’m not really affected as most of my social life was with large groups which are not allowed anywhere but I feel really sorry for the local cafes and restaurants which are closed. Two of our local pubs are now not reopening and are up for sale.

I am also angry about restaurants that appear to break the news and get away with it, I mean those places which allow groups of people eat together who are obviously not living together, unless there are now a lot of communes or nunneries for middle aged women! Prince Charles was seen on TV elbow bumping a group of four women out celebrating a 50th birthday in the Ritz - why had they been allowed to eat there.

hugshelp Mon 14-Dec-20 12:59:55

We've never been out of tier 3 and the numbers I see ignoring the rules astound me. I've already lost a friend in his fifties to this disease, know others who are battling to recover, and over half of ALL the beds in our local hospital are occupied by covid patient. And still hardly anyone has a mask or bothers to social distance. We barely leave the house, and never go to shops etc.

suelld Mon 14-Dec-20 13:01:01

To Witzend - Easy to say - but WHERE can you get Face Masks that don't steam up your glasses? I've tried everything - all the hints and tips - washing up liquid/windscreen washing liquid, etc, etc... don't work for me - I also have asthma and even with a light mask I still panic covered up - but I do it - I walk out with my glasses off - but it gets REALLY difficult to see labels or similar without my glasses so I put them on and get steamed up...
I agree re so many idiots out and about - I've told my son not to come to me in Wales for Xmas and will happily stay on my own - I have no 'bubbles', my next door neighbour seems to have various, but I'm staying in for the forseeable...

Noreen3 Mon 14-Dec-20 13:06:38

It annoys me that people don't follow the rules on buses,well done for saying something Witzend.We have some drivers who remind people politely,I wish more would.I,m not sure how genuine some of the lanyard wearers are,I saw one rolling her cigarettes ready for when she got off.And another one was talking on her phone for 10 minutes in a foreign language,didn't pause once for breath.She did well if she has trouble breathing,or maybe she doesn't wear a mask so it's easier to talk on her phone

Grandmabeach Mon 14-Dec-20 13:22:24

It annoys me that some people do not follow the rules or say they don't understand them. Easy enough if you read the Government's website. I am not going to waste my time getting worked up about it. As far as I am concerned it is my health (and life) that is at risk so I will take responsibility for it. If their are morons out there who refuse to follow the rules I will just be extra careful until there is far less risk of catching the virus.

4allweknow Mon 14-Dec-20 13:44:34

Rules are always for everyone else. Just look at the roads: speeding, cutting in, dangerous overtaking, illegal parking. All apply to all road users but ignored by some. All the laws in the land are broken time and time again and those relating to Covid are no different. Stay safe yourself as best you can that's all you can do.

Willitwork Mon 14-Dec-20 14:02:27

My mum on her death bed was not allowed any visitors to be with her at that time. I would have worn anything just to be able to be with her. I could not understand who they were trying to protect.

fordk4 Mon 14-Dec-20 14:09:48

I am sick of some people who are just selfish and do not follow the rules no wonder we have the covid -19 spreading at the rate is the government should make it law if anyone leaver their home everyone should have to wear a face mask and if caught an automatic fine of £200 then maybe this country could get a grip on this virus

deaneke Mon 14-Dec-20 14:10:11

We cancelled our journey to see our Grandchildren because of Covid. We haven’t seen them since August.
We booked a cottage to keep everyone more safe but in the end we decided it was for the benefit for all, not just our family. Friends seem to think the rules don’t apply to them. I know Covid pressures have affected many people but at this moment it is time to think of EVERYONE.

Tweedle24 Mon 14-Dec-20 14:16:45

I think the sad thing is that people, who say they want to do their own thing, don’t seem to realise that they are putting other people at risk, people who are being careful.

Twowolves, you are right, a mask won’t protect you. I don’t think anyone has ever said they will. Wearing a mask protects other people, not you!

It is all very well people talking about freedom but, with freedom comes responsibility.

Tweedle24 Mon 14-Dec-20 14:24:14

My grandson is the manager of a large London pub. They currently can allow people of one household to eat together. He says he asks people, as they come in, if they are in the same household. They say they are and, as they walk away, he hears one say to the other, “How are you? I haven’t seen you for months!” They must live in huge houses!

GrannyBeek Mon 14-Dec-20 14:28:54

Just been on a tram. There was a Police Community Support Officer there who was asking unmasked people if they would put one on. Interestingly, they all had masks - in pockets and bags. She didn’t tell partially masked people to cover their noses, though. Perhaps that was a step too far!

grandtanteJE65 Mon 14-Dec-20 14:30:12

It is selfish not to obey the rules, but as no police force has the manpower to go round handing out fines to people who are not following the rules, there is nothing we can do about it.

Here in Denmark, you would be asked to leave a shop if you were not wearing a mask, unless you had a doctor's chit stating that you couldn't wear one due to panic attacks, astma or the like.

The same applies across the border in Germany and no-one is disobeying the rule. A lot of people in both countries are wearing their masks in the streets as well.

I don't as I cannot stop my glasses fogging up - nothing works to prevent this, so I take my mask off in the street and pop my glasses on, then reverse the procedure before going into a shop.

The rule-breakers seem to be those who don't believe that Covid19 is dangerous. A lot of young and middle-aged people state blithely that it isn't more dangerous than an ordinary flu. They seem incapable of reading the daily statistics of deaths and new cases.

Presumably, when this is all over, governments will pass laws regarding behaviour under epidemics , so they can prosecute rule-breakers if we have other epidemics.

Blue5 Mon 14-Dec-20 14:36:38

Come January we will all be in lockdown again due to the selfish people not following the rules . Its a case of I'm alright Jack doing what I'm doing and I'm not condoning people seeing family for genuine reasons but not just because you want a cup of tea with very Tom Dick and Hary

hilz Mon 14-Dec-20 14:59:50

I know its frustrating but this global pandemic is going to be with us a very long time and all you can do is enjoy your life within the constraints you follow and try to relax about what others do.

Sparklefizz Mon 14-Dec-20 15:04:31

hilz

I know its frustrating but this global pandemic is going to be with us a very long time and all you can do is enjoy your life within the constraints you follow and try to relax about what others do.

What others do affects all of us ...

Paperbackwriter Mon 14-Dec-20 15:08:09

"Don't get me started about people of all ages who leave shops like an M&S food store without using the sanitiser provided."

If it's a sanitiser which involves touching the top to activate it, then I always avoid it. The ones operated either automatically or by a foot pedal are fine but surely the ones where you press a plunger are likely to defeat the object. Who knows what bugs were on the hand of the last person to use it? Don't rush to judge - some of us keep our own sanitiser (mine is attached to my handbag) with them or in their car.

Blue5 Mon 14-Dec-20 15:09:45

Agree as the people that are breaking the rules are the very people who are going the local supermarket .

Willow73 Mon 14-Dec-20 15:15:04

I heard that some pubs are putting a portion of pizza or the like on the table as people sit down so that they can just have drinks, that way they are likely to drink more and come back more often.

hulahoop Mon 14-Dec-20 15:18:22

Maddyone hope your mum is on the mend sometimes you have to make decisions I would have done what you did .
Spanielnanny your poor friend my heart goes out to her
To those who have lost friends and relatives ?
I agree with those who get annoyed with the likes of kay burley who for her punishment is having a lovely holiday she should not have been allowed to leave the country no use fining well off people.

Loobyloo12 Mon 14-Dec-20 15:25:37

TwoWolves
Why do surgeons wear masks do you think,?

Olive53 Mon 14-Dec-20 15:48:07

Two wolves. At last a sane person. I do wear a mask but personally think they’re useless. Wasn’t it the government who said in April that masks don’t work
When we weren’t paranoid about catching something with a 99% recovery rate, and not wearing the face nappy and not continuously sanitising hands the infection rate was much lower

Tweedle24 Mon 14-Dec-20 16:03:49

Paperbackwriter You don’t need to worry about the sanitisers, because you use the sanitiser after you have handled this dispenser, although, like you, I carry my own hand sanitiser.
Loobyloo You are quite right. Hospital staff wear masks because research and experience over many years has proved that masks do protect the patient — or in these times, the other people in the supermarket

NannyDaft Mon 14-Dec-20 16:04:19

Yes I too get very annoyed with people not following rules and wearing masks wrongly but I can’t help but agree with BlueBelle about the muddle and confusion we have been expected to follow for months ! Can’t do something on one side of the road but can on the other because of a tier difference ! Believe you me I don’t envy anybody in a Governmental or scientific position the burden they have - Dammed if they do and Dammed if they don’t ! I am just trying to look after myself as best I can and sincerely hope this awful situation passes before I get any more upset without my nearest and dearest !

Ellianne Mon 14-Dec-20 16:05:39

It seems to me that London will have no choice now but to follow the rules . Tier 3 all pubs and restaurants closed. I'm happy with that, even though the shops will sadly be shut.