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Dover is closed to outbound traffic

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mokryna Sun 20-Dec-20 21:44:15

Things are getting serious as France is because of covid is blocking lorry movements.

biba70 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:03:43

Callistemon

^our Government^

The Swiss Government?

why, are you Swiss?

I am certainly British, thanks.

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 21:03:47

Volunteers at the Guru Nanak Darbar in Gravesend have been making curry and pasta and delivering it to lorry drivers all day. They've made 800 meals so far today.

www.itv.com/news/meridian/2020-12-22/sikh-community-prepare-hot-meals-for-stranded-lorry-drivers-on-m20

I wonder why they made 800 meals, if only four drivers are stranded! hmm

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:04:20

lemongrove

Anyone blame Macron? No, thought not.....easier always for some posters to blame their own government ( simply because they are doing a bit of political point scoring) they are sadly deluded in this case.

Don’t be ridiculous - British queues on British soil are our responsibility. It’s not up to Macron to provide toilets

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:04:41

lemongrove

There are not hundreds being interviewed!

Did you watch SE today this evening? If so I am not sure what you saw.

What I saw was lots of people stranded with no facilities, confirmed by the interviewers and hundreds of truck drivers protesting to the police.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:06:01

growstuff

Volunteers at the Guru Nanak Darbar in Gravesend have been making curry and pasta and delivering it to lorry drivers all day. They've made 800 meals so far today.

www.itv.com/news/meridian/2020-12-22/sikh-community-prepare-hot-meals-for-stranded-lorry-drivers-on-m20

I wonder why they made 800 meals, if only four drivers are stranded! hmm

They’re going to need toilets if 4 drivers ate 800 curries grin

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 21:06:25

growstuff did anyone say there were four stranded? It was the same four ( usually one in fact) that were being interviewed for the news channels.

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:06:39

I don’t do hate.
I do blame the French government for the chaos in Dover. I do wonder why the French government have done nothing to help their nationals.
I do believe that Macron dislikes the English and likes to throw his weight about. I don’t know him personally so this is a wild assumption in the same way as the Boris Bashers make wild assumptions based on their own prejudice.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:07:31

The point is the government knows that there are going to be huge tailbacks after 1st January, otherwise why on earth would they put the holding facilities in place? But there are no toilets etc.

It is an absolute shambles, just as so much this government attempts to do turns out.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:07:54

LauraNorder

I don’t do hate.
I do blame the French government for the chaos in Dover. I do wonder why the French government have done nothing to help their nationals.
I do believe that Macron dislikes the English and likes to throw his weight about. I don’t know him personally so this is a wild assumption in the same way as the Boris Bashers make wild assumptions based on their own prejudice.

Or maybe like the other 40 odd countries that have restricted access to those from the U.K. he has concerns about the spread of the new variant

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:08:30

lemongrove

growstuff did anyone say there were four stranded? It was the same four ( usually one in fact) that were being interviewed for the news channels.

So I take it you didn’t see the local news from the SE?

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:08:40

I really think as a trial run for Brexit queues this shows we’re not really ready.

Pleased I’m not a farmer with fields bordering the motorway

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 21:09:22

Since it’s the French Government who have caused this debacle....let them sort it out.

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:09:43

Another xenophobic thread. It’s all the fault of Macron eh? What about the 40 other countries who have imposed a travel ban? Yes we should provide facilities for stranded drivers of whatever nationality. There are Brits stranded abroad at the moment and the British ( government) aren’t remotely interested.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:10:22

lemongrove

Since it’s the French Government who have caused this debacle....let them sort it out.

And in a fortnight?

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:10:26

Incidentally Northern Ireland is imposing 10 days self isolation on those travelling from the mainland (which will affect one of my kids when returning to Belfast)

Callistemon Tue 22-Dec-20 21:10:45

The new variant has been identified in other countries. However, our scientists are well ahead in the sequencing and research.

Why is the UK variant getting so much attention?
That doesn’t necessarily that the UK variant is the only new strain in circulation, and the reason the UK was one of the first countries to find a variant of note first is down to the vast amount of research being done on the virus here.
Sharon Peacock, director of COG-UK and a professor of public health and microbiology at the University of Cambridge, said: “We’ve sequenced 150,000 genomes which is about half the world’s data, so if you’re going to find something anywhere you’re going to find it probably here first.

“If this occurs in places that don’t have any sequencing you’re not going to find it at all.”

What that means, is that there could be – and almost certainly are – many more variants of coronavirus dotted all over the globe, they just haven’t been found yet.

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 21:10:58

.... and back to Brexit again?

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:11:58

It is not xenophobic to place blame where it’s due.

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:12:32

Of course Brexit is all going so swimmingly it’s not worthy of comment.

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 21:12:42

Exactly Callistemon

merlotgran Tue 22-Dec-20 21:13:05

Sovereignty and putting your citizens first- no?

By closing the border so they can't get home? hmm

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:13:23

It is xenophobic to blame whole nationalities.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:13:35

vegansrock

Of course Brexit is all going so swimmingly it’s not worthy of comment.

It will be upon us soon enough.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:14:14

lemongrove

Since it’s the French Government who have caused this debacle....let them sort it out.

I think they’re dealing with the ones queueing in Calais - they already had large queues because of Brexit stockpiling

biba70 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:14:52

Are you really surprised- or say it is irrelevant? All this dreadful mess and 1 week to go.

Oh yes, we need to 'believe and trust, and be positive and ...' it might have sounded sort of plausible 1 year ago- but now, it is just plain nonsense.