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Dover is closed to outbound traffic

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mokryna Sun 20-Dec-20 21:44:15

Things are getting serious as France is because of covid is blocking lorry movements.

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:55:17

Literal again. Lots of outlets around Dover. If the very generous Sikhs can do it I’m sure the pull of the French Ambassador could arrange sandwiches and water.
Toilet facilities in most cabs, otherwise grass verges will have to suffice. Logistically impossible to provide for several thousand toilets with a days notice but food and water more important.

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:54:25

They can return with a negative test according to BBC news.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:53:39

Oopsadaisy1

Macron has apparently agreed to allow French Nationals and EU members to go back to France.

So, not Covid related then, if it was they would all have to have a Covid test before leaving the U.K.

They have to have a negative test within the last 72 hours

Oopsadaisy1 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:52:42

Macron has apparently agreed to allow French Nationals and EU members to go back to France.

So, not Covid related then, if it was they would all have to have a Covid test before leaving the U.K.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:49:08

LauraNorder

They have embassies with access to Tesco!

So your solution is that the French embassy puts in an order for sandwiches and toilets with Dover Tesco?

That would work but not on Xmas week -
no delivery slots available until the 28th

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:48:00

Didn’t know Tesco had showers and toilets, I think access to food is the least of their worries.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:47:14

vegansrock

And how would all these governments be shipping over the facilities for their drivers if the port is closed?

To be fair there are only 4 lorry drivers without access to meals, hot showers and gleaming toilet facilities.

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:46:56

Is it Macrons fault that 60 other countries have travel bans too?

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:46:51

They have embassies with access to Tesco!

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 21:45:58

LauraNorder

Not happy to leave drivers without facilities but instead of blaming our government why not look to the cause and insist that their government looks after them

Because it suits posters political agendas. Of course it’s Macron’s fault to suddenly deny entry to French and other EU Nationals driving those lorries, it was a deliberate action because he needs credibility at home, he isn’t popular.

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:44:46

And how would all these governments be shipping over the facilities for their drivers if the port is closed?

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:42:54

LauraNorder

In the same way as the Polish government have managed

The polish embassy gave delivered some water & bread rolls. I’m not sure that’s really sorting out the problem.

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:42:37

Are really suggesting that French, Polish, Dutch, Latvian governments have to ship over toilets, food, washing facilities etc to Dover. I’ve heard of some daft ideas...

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:41:50

Well queuing lorries abs Brexit kind of go together.

But anyway, how would you see the French sorting out the problems of 3000+ lorries queuing in Kent?

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:41:21

In the same way as the Polish government have managed

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:40:26

And we’re back to Brexit, so predictable

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:40:13

LauraNorder

Not happy to leave drivers without facilities but instead of blaming our government why not look to the cause and insist that their government looks after them

How would you see that working? Considering the drivers are in GB?

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:39:13

Not happy to leave drivers without facilities but instead of blaming our government why not look to the cause and insist that their government looks after them

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:36:17

What was your point then? Macron has closed for Covid related reasons.

According to Irish truckers it’s just chaos a week earlier than expected www.irishtimes.com/news/health/nothing-is-working-as-it-should-new-covid-strain-stalls-irish-truckers-in-britain-1.4443261

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:35:01

Nezumi I am not suggesting the drivers are flown home. If you persist in literal translation I’m not surprised you constantly miss the point

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 21:30:27

I suppose those who say it’s not our problem are happy for drivers to spend days with little or no facilities. It’s not their fault fgs.Whatever country they come from and whatever port they are queueing at is immaterial, surely we could have some compassion. As for the British government helping stranded Brits they are doing sod all at the moment.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:30:09

Or maybe macron is responding the same way as 40 odd other countries.

We really haven’t moved on from Up Yours Delores have we?

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 21:29:53

As always Lemon

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 21:29:09

They had long queues a few days ago because of Brexit stockpiling - my point was that queues on the French side are the responsibility of France and to suggest queues here are up to France to sort out is ridiculous.

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 21:27:54

LauraNorder

If we had reason to close our borders we would repatriate our nationals ASAP and meanwhile ensure they were fed. We have been shown to do this many times, eg planes provided for stranded holidaymakers throughout the world when covid kicked off.
This variant and others are already in mainland Europe. The lorries could be allowed to cross the channels and undergo testing and quarantine in their home country. This would be less chaotic all round.

Macron wouldn’t like that.. he’s doing a spot of French willy waving.